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Microsoft Confirms Windows 8.1, Windows Phone 8 Updates
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SaneIT
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SaneIT,
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2/27/2014 | 8:12:42 AM
Re: I'm trying to imagine this title bar
I have not seen numbers but I wonder how many of those who tried Win 8 have actually updated to 8.1 or after a month of using it have stopped complaining.  I know that when people see the Start screen they ohh and ahh then when I drop down to the Apps screen they cringe.  There are still some very unpolished parts but the OS over all is not unpleasant to use after you adjust to the hot corners for the charms and switching apps.  I suspect an update will clean up the apps screen a but even if it doesn't I'll survive.  Now I want to see the desktop version of Win 8.1 on a phone...
peter1929
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2/27/2014 | 3:32:13 AM
8.1 update....make a restore point first
hi all my pc did the automatic update, it then rebooted and lost music, photos , lots of programs and Icons went walkabouts.

Update at own risk i say. :(

 
Michael Endler
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2/26/2014 | 11:27:16 AM
Re: I'm trying to imagine this title bar
Agreed. 8.1 does a much better job showing users how to handle the unfamiliar interface. The hints are a bit ostentatious, which can be annoying if you've already learned how the OS works, but it's certainly preferable to Microsoft's earlier strategy-- which was basically to throw desktop users into the deep end of the pool and tell them to swim. As I've said before, I was surprised that Windows 8.1 didn't silence more of the discontent from longtime desktop users. Maybe this update, in combination with the promised fleet of cheap devices that will come alongside it, will help Microsoft to gain market share.

SaneIT
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2/26/2014 | 8:32:57 AM
Re: I'm trying to imagine this title bar
What's funny is that my Surface Pro just updated itself to 8.1 pro last night and the first thing it did was show me how to switch apps, where the start button went and how to open the charms bar on the right hand side of the display.  I do have to say that since it's something I've been doing for months it was more irritating than anything else but those would have been nice the first time I turned the device on.

 
rradina
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rradina,
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2/25/2014 | 1:52:54 PM
Re: I'm trying to imagine this title bar
They actually added some hand-holding with 8.1.  Already being used to 8.0, it got in my way but the various "hints" stopped pretty quickly.  Either 8.1 learned I had already seen them or I disabled them (don't recall how/why they disappeared).

Regarding title bars, if I had to guess they will be configurable.  The article mentions the OS recognizing the hardware on which it's running and adapting itself.  It's likely the title bars will default to enabled on desktops and disabled on tablets.  Hopefully the customer can change that configuration regardless of hardware.

One of the most satisfying UI improvments in 8.1 is the use of split screen when e-mail attachments and documents in the modern browser.  Hopefully the update for 8.1 will include a smattering of equally welcome improvements.
Michael Endler
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Michael Endler,
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2/25/2014 | 1:08:53 PM
Re: I'm trying to imagine this title bar
Yeah, I agree that with a little experience, a lot of the unfamiliar elements become pretty easy to manage. But some decisions in the original release were bewildering. I wonder how many people opened the Windows Store and couldn't figure out how to even search for apps, given the charms and all.
SaneIT
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2/25/2014 | 8:54:23 AM
I'm trying to imagine this title bar
users will be able to close Modern apps via a title bar the top of the screen, or by using the taskbar "to switch between new Windows store apps [and] your old Windows apps in a very natural sort of way."

 

So there will be a title bar visible at all times?  That kind of defeats the point of full screen.  I do agree that the switch to Win 8 is a bit jarring but a week spent with it and those little issues go away.  I think a better approach would be a little more hand holding for the first couple of days after the OS has been installed.  There are a few little tips that pop up but not nearly as many as there should be.  The first time I opened the App Store I sat there trying to figure out how to get back to my desktop.  The old Windows shortcuts of alt+tab still work so you're not totally lost but the charms bar and dragging an application down the screen are not the most intuitive actions.

 
rradina
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rradina,
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2/25/2014 | 7:47:44 AM
Modern App Title Bars
Once metro apps have title bars perhaps the misconception that Windows 8 is two operating systems will RIP.


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