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Google Glass Prompts Attack, Woman Claims
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RobPreston
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2/26/2014 | 10:22:13 AM
Who's Fault?
So it's her fault she was attacked and robbed? Bad judgment, maybe. But I've been in enough dive bars in my life to know that acting like a "hipster" isn't an excuse for assualt and robbery.
Michael Endler
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2/26/2014 | 11:44:42 AM
Re: Who's Fault?
"Canter said, 'It's 100% her, dude.'" This Canter guy evidently has a taste for hyperbole. Dude, "100%"? Really?

I agree, Rob; Maybe it's not a great idea to wear Google Glass into certain venues-- but to assign blame to the victim??? Unless there's a lot more to this story, that's ridiculous.
Lorna Garey
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2/26/2014 | 11:55:11 AM
Re: Who's Fault?
OK, let's be real: The biggest crime here was against fashion. Who goes out to a club wearing an ugly set of Google Glasses?
RobPreston
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RobPreston,
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2/26/2014 | 11:59:13 AM
Re: Who's Fault?
...someone looking for attention. And she got the wrong kind.
Whoopty
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2/26/2014 | 12:01:06 PM
Re: Who's Fault?
Nobody should blame her for the violence, that was clearly way too far. However, some measure of blame for at the very least, rudeness, if not somewhat anti-social behaiour, could be considered in her case. 

If someone is looking in your direction with a Glass headset on and you aren't familiar with its recording clues (though the fact that Google didn't opt for a red light suggests it's somewhat ok with the idea of stealthy recording) it would be the same as someone standing there with their phone pointed in your direction. You might assume they were filming you. 

While that should never give you the right to attack someone physically, asking them to stop shouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility. 
Michael Endler
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2/26/2014 | 12:20:31 PM
Re: Who's Fault?
You're right; Google Glass bring up interesting social contracts. This incident happened inside a bar, in which case other patrons might have a reasonable expectation against being recorded without their consent by other customers. Certainly, the bar can (as some others already have) ban Google Glass and similar devices from being worn inside the premises.

But what about on the street? People are already legally allowed to take pictures of virtually anything they want in a public space. Google Glass will be a lot trickier in situations like that.

But the incident in SF seems to be about more than privacy inside a dive bar; it also seems to be about growing sentiment within the city that the tech boom is ruining local culture. Canter's comments in this article reflects that viewpoint, and the SF Chronicle's report on this incident tapped the same vein.

If the issue is not only privacy but also social inequity, this kind of aggression makes no sense-- just like the Google bus vandalism didn't. I think for a lot of angry people in the city, the focal point shouldn't be that techies are paid so well, given so many great perks, and positioned to have such a big impact on the rental market; wage and social inequality issues are systemic, much bigger than Google buses, and they should be treated as such.
WKash
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2/26/2014 | 12:25:44 PM
Re: Who's Fault?
Well said, Rob:  "...someone looking for attention. And she got the wrong kind."

Certainly she didn't deserve to be robbed. But the incident does illustrate how the use of Google Glass pushes into uncomfortable social territory -- and people's reactions aren't always going to be "Gee whiz."
Somedude8
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2/26/2014 | 2:03:18 PM
Re: Who's Fault?
Sounds like the start of a bad joke "A hipster and Glass walk in to a punk bar".

I can't help but run the movie in my head here:

Hipster/tech person, wearing Glass, walks in to a punk bar in a shady neighborhood. She is probably the only one in the bar with no tatoos, no boots, and no scars. At this point she has two options:

Option 1: Get out. Fast.

Option 2: Stay.

This is a lot like me grabbing my steering wheel, yanking it hard to one side, then blaming Honda that I hit a parked car. This is so beyond any reasonable measure of normal behavior and rection to an obviously bad situation, that I have to wonder if she didn't stage the whole thing. Its too much to believe. This may be like an aspiring celebrities 'leaked' sex tape.
cbr600f4
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2/26/2014 | 4:02:09 PM
Re: Who's Fault?
BY all reports her "dude" threw the first punch at those asking her to not record them. 

None of this story is a blanket statement on life in SF or even about Google Glasses. It is a tiny story about a dumb girl and her obnoxious violent friends with terrible city skills and lack of respect towards other bar patrons, nothing more. She must be incredibly naive (and very drunk as persons who were there report) for thinking Molotov's was the right place to take unwanted pictures of bar goers while calling them "White Trash" at the same time. Did she really think her FRIEND throwing the first punch is not an issue but we should consider getting a towel thrown at her as a violent hate crime? Did she really believe leaving her purse and phone unattended in a bar at 1:30am with a bunch of rough and tumble drunks was a good idea when her friends start a fight? Had she not been so easily scammed out of her belongings there would not even be a story here. How fragile and out of touch is this woman? On her Facebook rant the people who were in the bar are telling a completely different story, or chiding her for exaggerating  With the glasses on perhaps she is living in a special virtual reality where the rules of common sense don't apply."
Kristin Burnham
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2/26/2014 | 4:15:22 PM
Re: Who's Fault?
Is using Glass really any different than someone using their phone at a bar to surreptitiously video a confrontation? You don't often hear about those problems, but introduc Glass and it becomes a whole new beast.
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