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Foreigners Don't Take IT Jobs, They Create Them
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braya
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braya,
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11/27/2011 | 1:30:29 AM
re: Foreigners Don't Take IT Jobs, They Create Them
Burger flipping you say? Enter illegal immigrants, which is a far worse problem than the H-1B program. Don't you agree? :)
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braya,
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11/27/2011 | 1:27:46 AM
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That was what Corporate America wanted at that time and now that they are feeling the backlash, people are whining.
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11/27/2011 | 1:02:25 AM
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All is fair in love and in war. In this case, Trade Wars. The H-1B program as whimsically projected by some people here is capped at only 65,000 a year.

I think we all know why America is on its knees right now, it is a backlash of greed and exploitation.

If you truly believe that "you've got (IT) talent", innovate, move on, prove your niche and stop bitching about H-1B. In any issue America just wants to exploit but not exploited but when we are, we bitch to hell about everything and how America was so great as it was once were. Sounds familiar?

People are whining because apparently they cannot move on because they really don't have the talent. Do you bigshots really think that U.S. Companies will settle and risk ruining their business because of mediocre talent, foreign talent that is? Logic dictates that they won't.

All whiners are scared individuals.
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braya,
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11/27/2011 | 12:47:05 AM
re: Foreigners Don't Take IT Jobs, They Create Them
Answer: Lobbyists. The system is "workable" by lawyers and it was intentionally made that way. Why? Washington, Inc.
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braya,
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11/27/2011 | 12:43:00 AM
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When the American economy was good and products and services in America were cheap because of programs such as the H-1B Visa, outsourcing. off-shoring, etc. Americans were certainly not whining or at least the majority of Americans didn't

Blame that to Corporate America.

Everything is fair in love and in war. In this case, Trade Wars.
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11/18/2011 | 6:10:31 PM
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But if all you need is cheap labor, it makes sense to bring them here. If the US is the main market and services need to be rendered, then having folks sit somewhere overseas doesn't help. And you don't have to deal with foreign governments, customs, etc.
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11/18/2011 | 4:24:19 PM
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My major problem with bloggers is that they often don't investigate the facts but merely rebroadcast somebody else. The concept of checking the validity of Wadwha's study instead of just quoting it assuming that it is factually accurate doesn't even come to thought.

To be fair, bloggers are not acting like a journalist. Assuming that true journalism exists any more with a journalist going around pounding the pavement then one often finds that what you were told is not factually accurate.

The end result is you get statements such as

>> Clearly, foreign nationals aren't just "taking" U.S. jobs; they and their offspring are producing more than their fair share of innovations and economic opportunity, much of it on these shores. <<

which is hardly "Clearly" at all.

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11/17/2011 | 11:29:12 PM
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Perhaps some of what you reported could be true. BUT....many companies created here in the US are former H-1b's who gained their citizenship and started IT consulting companies. And guess what?? There are over 300 hundred companies who partner with my company and send me all of their available consultants - who you say ? - Guess What again... are 99% H-1b's ! I've be in IT since the late 70's and I know more about the industry than you! The former H-1b's who are now US citizens and have move up in management now choose H-1b's over US citizens. Many of the H-1B companies are presenting US citizen resumes to their clients and and jacking up the rates without the US citizen knowing and presenting h-1b/green card rates at the client desired rate minus several dollars. I have already caught several of these companies in these practices including discrimination. The program has it's place - BUT THE PROGRAM IS TO NEVER REPLACE A QUALIFIED US CITIZEN WITH AN H1-B - PERIOD!!!!!!!!! WHY don't you log in to some India H-1B blog sites like I have done and screen captured what they are saying - like ' We own the US IT industry'.....and you know what - if they don't they're might close. I like my friends that I have worked with who are from India. Many are also hard working US citizens. No problem with that at all. But we have millions of natural born citizens who spent thousands to go to college but out of work - 450,000 are IT workers. There are currently 2 million H-1B's here for 6-years minimum. (go to http://www.uscis.gov for the facts) DO THE MATH !! We use to let in 250,000 plus per year. We're down to 65,000 plus 20,000 Master h1-b's. We're losing our homes, our families and our minds. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE WRITING BEFORE YOU publish. GET AN ACTUAL PULSE ON THE IT COMMUNITY ! p.s. I am collecting the evidence and will provide to EEO and necessary Inspector General offices.
And if you would like to go undercover to see these practices firsthand so you can write the truth - please let me know.
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11/16/2011 | 1:18:35 AM
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If you can build your product cheaper in another country then you do it outside the US and don't bring foreign workers to the US in the first place.

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11/16/2011 | 12:58:23 AM
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The difference is that the Chinese have tons of cash and the US doesn't. So why do you think is calling the shots in any form of trade negotiation. The US lost out on that due to reckless administrations wasting trillions on wars rather than on investing into the country's future.
Aside from that, there is plenty of opposition to Wal-Marts all over the place, not just in China.
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