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H-1B Visa Demand Spike Predicted
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Laurianne
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Laurianne,
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3/13/2014 | 10:27:47 AM
Talent shortage?
The statements about not being able to fill entry-level jobs will not ring true with many job seekers, I am sure. It is not surprising that security skills are in high demand this year; this is one area where non-H-1B applicants have an edge in some verticals right now. A friend at a defense contractor told me recently that security stars at that company write their own tickets right now.

 
Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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3/13/2014 | 11:12:29 AM
Re: Talent shortage?
Seems like one way to ensure employers aren't passing over qualified US applicants is to require an H-1B hire be paid the going rate for the role, based on industry salary data. Is that an area subject to verification?
RobPreston
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RobPreston,
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3/13/2014 | 2:48:39 PM
Re: Talent shortage?
That's already a requirement, Lorna. "You must be paid at least the actual or prevailing wage for your occupation, whichever is higher." But that doesn't mean employers don't skirt the rules.
 
n6532l
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n6532l,
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3/14/2014 | 1:35:57 AM
Re: Talent shortage?
While there is a requirement that H-1Bs be paid the “prevailing wage” when the rules for determining that wage are applied the resulting wage is 20-30 percent less than what an American would earn. As entrepreneur turned academic Vivek Wadhwa of Duke University put it: “I know from my experience as a tech CEO that H-1Bs are cheaper than domestic hires. Technically, these workers are supposed to be paid a ‘prevailing wage,’ but this mechanism is riddled with loopholes. In the tech world, salaries vary widely based on skill and competence. Yet the prevailing wage concept works on average salaries, so you can hire a superstar for the cost of an average worker.”
DAVIDINIL
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DAVIDINIL,
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3/13/2014 | 3:15:00 PM
Re: Talent shortage?
Absolutely correct.  The companies that seek H1-B visas have no desire to hire American workers.  They have no desire to provide training for Americans to aquire these skills.  Industry wants IT workers to come ready made and to have born the cost of training out of the workers pockets.   Industry prefers younger immigrants who are willing to put in hundreds of hours of unpaid overtime. 

How can American I.T. applicants compete against Indian workers that have had training subsidized by the Indian government?   Workers that do not have family obligations.  Workers that are young and come without any healthcare needs.  Workers that are here for a few years and then take the money and go back home to India. 

It is disgraceful that our legislators are selling American jobs to oversees workers. 

Let's also add that this is huge contributor to the income gap that we see in America.  These are the middle class jobs that are being offshored.  Of course we now have a widening gap between the haves and the have nots.  Congress is seeing to it that we do by using H1_B's. 
n6532l
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n6532l,
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3/13/2014 | 12:15:56 PM
Left and Right Agree
Conservative Nobel winning economist Milton Friedman said "There is no doubt, that the [H-1B] program is a benefit to their employers, enabling them to get workers at a lower wage, and to that extent, it is a subsidy."  Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) says "What many of us have come to understand is that these H-1B visas are not being used to supplement the American workforce where we have shortages but, rather, H-1B visas are being used to replace American workers with lower cost foreign workers."
tka2013
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3/13/2014 | 6:39:31 PM
Re: Left and Right Agree
While he espouses certain socialist ideas Sen. Sanders is not a part of any of the Socialist parties in the US. It would be accurate to classify Sen. Sanders is a registered Independent who frequently caucuses with Democrats. What is more relevant is how few Democrats or Republicans come out expressly for or against the H1B programs for fear they will alienate their high tech industry contributors.
n6532l
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n6532l,
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3/14/2014 | 12:53:14 AM
Re: Left and Right Agree
Regarding Sander’s political leanings point taken. I was trying to say that smart people see the H-1B for what it is. Two who have expressed candidly about the H-1B are former Senator Robert Bennett (R-Utah) and Representative Tom Davis (R-VA). Bennett said "Once it's clear (the visa bill) is going to get through, everybody signs up so nobody can be in the position of being accused of being against high tech. There were, in fact, a whole lot of folks against it, but because they are tapping the high-tech community for campaign contributions, they don't want to admit that in public." Rep. Tom Davis (R-Va.), said, "This is not a popular bill with the public. It's popular with the CEOs. This is a very important issue for the high-tech executives who give the money"
DDURBIN1
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DDURBIN1,
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3/13/2014 | 12:25:40 PM
Lack of investment in Americans continues
After over 20 years of "filling the gap" with foreign IT workers you would think there would be Americans available by now.  When we are short of ICU nurses we don't go to India for them.  When we are short of teachers for special needs students we don't go to India for them.  When we have a shortage of ANY other profession we build at home.  Why are we still NOT doing this for IT jobs? 
DavidF222
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DavidF222,
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3/13/2014 | 12:29:01 PM
What they government
What the government is doing is a disgrace

There are plenty of American's that can do these jobs.  There are enough people on unemployment that can fill these voids in IT and other areas.  They only differences are that

The American works are more experienced and have higher salary expectation.  The foreign workers are willing to take lower salary handed out to them because the government doesn't

step in to protect American workers like the foreign governments do.   Most foreign countries protect their workers from layoffs, downsizing, etc.  They aren't allowed.  We should be more

like Canada, where all jobs must be filled with an Canadian before it can be outsourced to someone from another company, they have to prove that there aren't any workers available to fill that spot.

Why is the US government allowing big companies to outsource to foreign companies without being penalized, they should lose all tax breaks when they close up shops or IT departments outsource

to foreign workers.  It's about time that the US government stands up for the American people.
MDI_LLC
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MDI_LLC,
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3/15/2014 | 11:44:44 AM
You mention 'Big Data'
How many of these H1Bs know it? maybe they get a 1 day course in India. And employers are looking for people with these skills? So they want H1Bs who DON'T HAVE THE SKILL. Why is that?

Why because if they have to allow ramp-up on the skill set they'd rather do it at a cheaper rate. Where does that leave Americans and Green Card holders who are seeking jobs with that skill set, or recent colleg graduates..  where does it leave America's future in IT? We've been losing that edge for decades. The H1B program should be eliminated, period. It's a disgrace it isn't, all because of the myths spready by greedy corporations who are just here for the NYSE listing.

US citizens and Green card holders have houses, mortgages, families  - when they are replaced by H1Bs who pays for the loss in taxes (income and otherwise) and unemployment benefits. H1Bs like to talk about how they pay SS taxes - ok I'd say put it down to a cost of being here and burnishing the resume.  US Banks. telecoms and even State governments (and the Federal govt too) offshore (and inshore via H1B and L1 visas)  - it's part of the Beancounter tools and what it does is cause MISERY for US families.

 
trungtle01
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trungtle01,
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3/20/2014 | 6:33:44 PM
As an immigrant myself
I don't have comprehensive understanding of the whole process or what is fair or not. I am an immigrant worker myself from Vietnam in the software industry, and it's a difficult journey to get here in the US. Maybe I am stealing job from Americans? But I am paid fairly high compared to my American colleagues in the same field (in Seattle). I am working for a small company and not a big corporate.

Now I have been a big part of the company's small team, having my job hanging by a thread just because a lottery is ridiculous and unfair. 

Sure, there are big corps taking advantage of the low-wage workers, immigrants who don't have choices. But how about those who have made it through and now becoming successful? 

It might be easy to say I can go back to my home country and start working with 1/10 of the salary. Well, we don't burn our time, money and sweat to make it somewhere to then just to be reset to zero because a random algorithm said so. I'm here to make a living just like everyone else, and with virtually no protection from the Vietnamese government or the US goverment except for this H1B visa program. 

Make it fair for workers of all origins. I am no Indian but I feel sympathy for all the Indians workers who get all the blame. Americans have the home field advantages: exisiting social connections, no language barriers, no cultural barriers, better education, higher living standards, an array of priveledges. Immigrants are just willing to take a bet, go home or nothing. And where I'm from is not an easy place to live with so many problems of its own. It's not all roses.

I hope to be fair and to compete fairly with Americans for jobs, instead of being treated like second-class citizen everywhere. It is frustrating.


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