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IBM: We'll Stand Up To NSA
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D. Henschen
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3/17/2014 | 6:06:55 PM
If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
The other reason the Center for Strategic Studies suspects U.S. manufacturers are being punished by the Chinese is Washington's refusal to buy goods from China's Huawei Technologies. The U.S. government says this telecommunications equipment maker is a threat to national security because of its links to the Chinese military. The fear is you'll buy a Huawei server and introduce a secret gateway to snooping from foreign shores. What a fine mess we're all in due to these rampant "dark digital arts."
Brian.Dean
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3/18/2014 | 1:52:41 AM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
As the number of players increase, it causes the dynamics to increase. IBM is right in its stance to want to protect customer's data. It's their whole business model and not just from unauthorized government access but access to customer's data from customer's competitors as well. Each player has their own valid argument relatively, but at the end of the day it seems like issues relating to tariff and non-tariff barriers.
Whoopty
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3/18/2014 | 10:44:40 AM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
That's a lot better than we have here in the UK. Here PM David Cameron has told us all how much he likes Huawei's filtering system in China and would like something similar here. 

Still, it's interesting how IBM has pitched itself as not the owner of customer data, that way it and they are protected. But it is surprising, since that data, while volatile, would be potentially very valuable. 
JoeC371
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3/18/2014 | 11:47:16 AM
What we really need to hear...
... is that if you are given secret orders to violate the Constitutional and due-process rights of your customers, you will have the balls to tell NSA to 'booger off' and send out a mass e-mail to Congress, major news organizations, your customers and everybody in your contact list, titled "I totally didn't mean to send this. Yikes!"


What IBM is saying is, essentially "If we find ourselves in a position where we are forced to fight a losing legalistic battle against secret actors in secret settings, we will totally operate by their rules and suffer their legalistic wranglings in order to do everything in our power, which is nothing."


Well, big corporation people who spend billions a year worrying about security... I guess that money will be well spent. Don't you feel 'secure'?
Lorna Garey
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3/18/2014 | 1:14:00 PM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
It's a lot easier for IBM to take this stance since it's unloaded its hardware businesses to Lenovo.
KevinO442
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3/18/2014 | 5:46:06 PM
Resistance is Futile
You live in a country where they've already kicked in the door with FBI agents once and demanded the keys or they'll arrest everyone in sight.

 

Your statement should be , more accurately "IBM : We'll Stand Up to NSA only until the start arresting us... "

 And , of course, since you are legally required to deny (or technically "not to disclose" ) your cooperation with the NSA , your letter denying you ever told them anything means nothing. You'd be sending the exact same letter whether you did or you didn't.

 
KevinO442
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3/18/2014 | 5:54:00 PM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
All "secure servers" for use by the local governments need to be manufactured locally. (within that same country).  It's really the only solution because countries like China won't hesitate to build in a back door if they ever become part of a contract for some foreign countries government utilized netowrk.
D. Henschen
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D. Henschen,
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3/18/2014 | 6:27:42 PM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
CORRECTION: IBM only unloaded its X86 business. IBM still manufactures System Z mainframes and Power System servers. These were always the big money makers to begin with.
Lorna Garey
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3/18/2014 | 6:32:55 PM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
Good point, Doug. Hardware back doors are probably a whole other column!
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3/18/2014 | 7:59:15 PM
Re: If you don't buy our servers, we won't buy yours.
@Kevin0442 I agree, but do you think it's likely to happen?
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