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Charlie Babcock
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3/25/2014 | 5:49:57 PM
Many paths to DevOps
Nice discussion of DevOps, Lorna. I personally don't think it's critical what methodology or discipline you adopt to get to DevOps. It's more important that the wall between development and operations be broken down and the two parties be put in contact with each other for something other than an exchange of insults. Many ways to do that.
cobiacomm01
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3/25/2014 | 5:41:51 PM
EveryTown IT and DevOps
Good article pointing out the cultural and educational hurdles.   Because DevOps requires a cultural mindshift, EveryTown IT may not readily adopt DevOps principles and practices.   While tools are not a panacea, outdated infrastructure can hinder a team's ability to improve processes and automate tasks.   A DevOps PaaS (e.g. WSO2 App Factory) can ease adoption pain.

 

 
thescottking
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3/25/2014 | 4:59:45 PM
Re: DevOps
Andi,

Yes, the principles of getting more done with the same or less resources have been around for some time. However, market pushes increase the visibility and help the market (think supply chain, cloud, etc.) and this causes reactions from many.

As for DevOps titles and roles this will be abused but for good reasons. There is a demand for devops resources but they don't talk about culture shift that big companies will require they talk about tools. Take this advertisement for example that is tool focused. This job requires 3+ years of "DevOps" experience yet labels the job as "Junior"
Laurianne
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3/25/2014 | 4:04:40 PM
Re: DevOps
Andi, thanks for adding your thoughts here. Best, Laurie
andimann
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3/25/2014 | 3:10:29 PM
Re: DevOps is not that new
Yes Lorna, automation and tools are going to be more and more important, especially for large enterprises putting their toes in the water of 'big devops'.Almost impossible to go at 'devops speed' without them. They will become more important for HR scanning resumes too.

Though I actually wonder if things like "listening" and "teamwork" aren't better skills in practice? The research you pointed to shows IT leaders say the top 3 skills for DevOps teams are business strategy knowledge, business process knowledge, and communications skills. Tech and tools come much lower.

Surprising result in some ways, but when you consider the core values of DevOps, they make sense.

 

Andi.
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3/25/2014 | 3:05:03 PM
Re: DevOps is not that new
No worries! And yes, I guessed, but online it is not always easy to tell and I hate to risk offending. :)

 

Andi
andimann
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andimann,
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3/25/2014 | 3:03:49 PM
Re: DevOps
Hi Laurianne, I do agree, there is a lot about DevOps that is not new. One of my colleagues has given a great preso at DevOpsDays titled "ITIL Invented DevOps" that has gone over very well, that points to exactly this. It is tough to recognize sometimes because DevOps is not very well defined, and not particularly proescriptive either.

One big difference (e.g. from Agile) is that DevOps is as much about revamping Ops process as it is about Dev process. But for sure, it does put a name to what a lot of people believe should happen, and what many have been doing for some time.

 

Andi Mann

CA Technologies.

 

(somehow ended up with multiple IDs on the site - sorry if this is confusing)
Lorna Garey
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3/25/2014 | 2:06:52 PM
Re: DevOps is not that new
Yes, thanks Andi. I hear a lot of discussion about whether there should be such a title as "DevOps Engineer," and I can see both sides. However, as we all know, the HR teams charged with scanning resumes like to have nice, neat lists of keywords. Now the question is, what should one have to know to put "DevOps" on a resume? Chef & Puppet and the basics of what developers (if you're ops) do, or vice versa? Do you need expertise with automation systems? To know at least one programming language?

 
GAProgrammer
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3/25/2014 | 1:01:10 PM
Re: DevOps is not that new
Thanks for the clarification...and yes, I was indeed joking.
AndiMann01
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3/25/2014 | 12:31:52 PM
Re: DevOps is not that new
GA, in many ways you are right. 20+ years ago, when I was in tech ops, we had programmers in the data center, on shift, working side-by-side with operators, even in a finance org.

But just as cloud shares characteristics with, but is not the same as, the on-demand compute services of 20 years ago, neither is devops the same today as the collaboration of the past. Newer capabilities & methodologies (agile, lean, automation, service virtualization, cloud computing) have changed how dev can go fast, and how ops can go fast. DevOps is a new approach to bring them together and take advantage of that opportunity to accelerate application delivery.

And yes, it is just good business sense, but that doesn't make it simple, or easy, especially when dev and ops barely see each other (e.g. when ops is locked in the data center, and devs are scattered around the globe).

DevOps is not only for larger businesses and organizations. In fact, adoption has been greater in small and 'web-scale' businsses (Zynga, Netflix, Amazon, etc.) where dev and ops work together more easily (and as you and Laurie both point out, have done for years). The challenges are greater in large enterprises, but the payoff is greater too. Bigger risk, bigger reward.

And I suspect you were joking, but 'DevOps' has actually become something hiring managers are looking for, and paying more for (for better or worse) e.g. here is a quick salary comparison from a job search website.

Thanks for commenting.

Andi Mann, CA Technologies.
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