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Google Fit: Another Try At Health Data?

Google looks to announce a new service at the Google I/O conference that will track activity data. Will it succeed where Google Health failed?

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Gigi3
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7/7/2014 | 3:31:34 AM
Re: Google Fit
"Of course, we've seen cases where Google (Apple too) has pulled apps from its store -- often after there's been a user outcry. I am not sure how much (if at all) either Google or Apple scrutinizes ISVs' ToS, however."

Alision, I heard that for research and analysis purposes we can buy such datas from third parties.
Alison_Diana
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7/3/2014 | 9:48:32 AM
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Indeed, @Gigi3. Of course, we've seen cases where Google (Apple too) has pulled apps from its store -- often after there's been a user outcry. I am not sure how much (if at all) either Google or Apple scrutinizes ISVs' ToS, however.
Gigi3
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7/3/2014 | 3:51:33 AM
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"Anecdotally, I don't think many people care what companies like Google or Apple or healthcare organizations are doing with their data. Personally, I disagree and am leary of these very ambiguous ToS that leave users' data open to all sorts of usage or interpretation"

Alision, why companies are worring about such data? Only the end patient has to be worry. I know many medical/pharmaceutical companies are collecting such datas from hospitals and doctors. Thereafter they are using such datas for medical trial experiments with patients.
Gigi3
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7/3/2014 | 3:48:26 AM
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"I can't foresee that most users would restrict themselves to an Apple-only healthcare approach if they think through the process and realize they could be locking themselves and their very personal health data onto one vendor's product plans. That said, I am not sure how much thought most users put into their app usage. By focusing on consumers, Apple could well overcome the negative connotations of a closed platform."

Alision, you are right. Apple is a single vendor using iOS and they have the full control. Before listing any third part apps in istore, they will do a thorough scrutiny to make sure its secured. But that's not the case with Android. Many third party players are using android and anyone can develop app and it can be get listed in Google play without much scrutiny.I mean Google have a less control over the App developers.
Alison_Diana
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7/2/2014 | 11:45:19 AM
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I agree, @Gigi3. In most areas, an open platform wins. So far, it has not always been the case in smartphones and tablets -- although Android's marketshare is bigger than Apple's iOS, unsurprising given the number of vendors and products in the Android category vs. the Apple-only iOS approach. I can't foresee that most users would restrict themselves to an Apple-only healthcare approach if they think through the process and realize they could be locking themselves and their very personal health data onto one vendor's product plans. That said, I am not sure how much thought most users put into their app usage. By focusing on consumers, Apple could well overcome the negative connotations of a closed platform.
Alison_Diana
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7/2/2014 | 11:41:58 AM
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Anecdotally, I don't think many people care what companies like Google or Apple or healthcare organizations are doing with their data. Personally, I disagree and am leary of these very ambiguous ToS that leave users' data open to all sorts of usage or interpretation. As i wrote in "When is Anonymous Data Really Anonymous?" I want standards and clear-cut definitions of what deidentified data is (and isn't) and how patients can opt-out (or ideally, opt-in) for usage. But i'm not holding my breath.
Gigi3
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7/1/2014 | 5:28:28 AM
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"But don't you think it's unlikely leading phone or tablet vendors would abandon Android/Google, given the platform's success? Apple doesn't seem likely to alter its proprietary approach to the market. Microsoft could. It is, after all, under new leadership and its cloud-focused vision seems more empathetic with the open source approach."

Alison, they know such things can happen one day. That's the reason they made Android as an open source. Why they sold their Motorola mobility to Lenovo? They now well that if they start using Motorola hardware, Samsung, LG, HTC etc can come up with their own OS in future. They may be against their business interest.
Gigi3
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7/1/2014 | 5:24:03 AM
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"Between the platforms and applications they own -- Android, Gmail, Google, Google+, etc. -- and the company's search capabilities (Google, Maps, Drive, News...), Google tracks who we know, where we go, what we like to do, how we like to spend our free time and money, and what we're interested in, among many things. Our health is probably the only missing element (although Google probably already has a lot of this information from info we post ourselves, search for, have contacts for, etc.). "

Alision, I meant exactly the same thing. How knows how they are using such datas and for what purpose.
Alison_Diana
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6/19/2014 | 10:08:01 AM
Re: Google Fit Devices
Oh sorry, @Gigi3. I totally agree with you! Google is (or perhaps already has) amassed so much data on individuals we'd probably be astounded at the accuracy of the picture they have on us. Between the platforms and applications they own -- Android, Gmail, Google, Google+, etc. -- and the company's search capabilities (Google, Maps, Drive, News...), Google tracks who we know, where we go, what we like to do, how we like to spend our free time and money, and what we're interested in, among many things. Our health is probably the only missing element (although Google probably already has a lot of this information from info we post ourselves, search for, have contacts for, etc.). 
Alison_Diana
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6/19/2014 | 10:04:54 AM
Re: Google Fit
Yes, Google is dependent on third parties for its hardware, unlike Microsoft and Apple. But don't you think it's unlikely leading phone or tablet vendors would abandon Android/Google, given the platform's success? Apple doesn't seem likely to alter its proprietary approach to the market. Microsoft could. It is, after all, under new leadership and its cloud-focused vision seems more empathetic with the open source approach.
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