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Google Outlines Advertising Vision

Google tells SEC there are no plans to run ads on Nest thermostats, but other Internet-connected smart devices are fair game.

(Source: Nest)
(Source: Nest)

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D. Henschen
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5/21/2014 | 4:32:09 PM
Glad to hear there's not Nest desperation
Ads on your thermostat and fridge? That would really be a new low. I'm skepitcal about Google's ability to succeed with consumer products, whether that's Google Glass, Nest, or anything else I've seen. Even the Compute Cloud seems like a hobby without an aggressive game plan. Without the Google name, some of these projects would have killed off by now. For example, now that Honeywell (and others) have gotten hip to smart thermostats, I don't think premium-priced Nest stands a chance.
jlkansascity
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5/21/2014 | 5:31:34 PM
Oh No, I can see it now!
I can see it now. If you want to change a setting on your thermostat, you have to watch a video ad for 5 seconds first. When you're just checking the temperature, you'll have invites to play Candy Crush on your Nest screen.
anon7888201425
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5/21/2014 | 6:21:08 PM
Ad's
They need to be sued, $900 million in a class action law suit would stop these stupid ad's nobody wants to see
Uplift_Humanity
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5/21/2014 | 8:52:43 PM
Nest is in trouble - and Google is hiding their true strategy

I don't agree with your point about Honeywell giving Nest any challenge. Honeywell has never made a good product. They take average technology and use it to add bells & whistles to their products (they give no real benefit to their customers other than flashy screens and beeps). This is very different from Nest, which is all about creating advances and new capabilities.

Nest made their mark because their product is truly great -- it actually learns your habits (temperature-related) and it uses the weather to basically predict what you want.  And it actually does a decent job.  Nest was founded by basically a bunch of former Apple employees, who understood design (not just aesthetics, but also software and user-interface).

Now, Google comes along, and is trying to squeeze Nest (not realizing they're ruining it). Because they're clueless (or maybe single-mindedly ad-focused)


1) Google issued several press releases trying to clarify the news. They did not say Nest will never put ads on its screens.  Google's statement is guarded and carefully worded:  "Nest ... does not have an ads-based model and has never had any such plans,"  This is Corporate Speak -- and it talks only about Nest's past. Google did not say Nest will never show Ads.  Ads are Google's entire corporate strategy -- they will never disclose their strategy.


2) Google's entire business model is based on advertisements (and the data they need for it).  It relies on clueless users giving their personal data to Google, freely. Google then sells that (our) data to advertisers -- to anyone that pays them (even thieves who form fake companies). Google could care less if their data discloses when you're home and when you're not, what road you drive to work, and what stores you shop at and when. (all of this is free, from the GPS data they get for free, from every android phone).

Uplift_Humanity
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5/21/2014 | 9:09:01 PM
Google - stop trying to fool us!
Google said they have "no plans to run ads on Nest thermostats."  That's corporate-speak. They didn't say Nest will never show ads.


Makes you wonder why Google does this. Who they really care about.
D. Henschen
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5/22/2014 | 8:39:24 AM
Re: Nest is in trouble - and Google is hiding their true strategy
Honeywell has never made a good product? I suppose that's why their round thermostats are as ubiquitoius as Kleenex and BandAids? In fact, Next took it's design cues from Honeywell.
Shane M. O'Neill
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5/22/2014 | 11:01:30 AM
Re: Google - stop trying to fool us!
Google's extremely successful business model is based on ads and data generated around those ads. Don't think for a second it'll make an exception for Nest because it's a home consumer product.
Lorna Garey
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5/22/2014 | 11:44:21 AM
Re: Google - stop trying to fool us!
I suspect that whatever lowly functionary threw what was probably considered a throwaway line in that SEC filing is, even as we speak, hiding in a bathroom somewhere deep within Google HQ.
Thomas Claburn
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5/22/2014 | 4:18:29 PM
Re: Ad's
If Nest ever did start showing ads on its thermostat, I predict Post-It sales would surge as people looked for ways to create make-shift ad blockers.
Uplift_Humanity
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5/22/2014 | 4:50:39 PM
Re: Nest is in trouble - and Google is hiding their true strategy
@D. Henschen:  You have a point.

Though, ubiquitousness does not imply a good product.  E.g., food sold by McDonalds is everywhere worldwide, but is not considered to be good (at least, to most people who have truly had good food).

My point is, Honeywell are not known for innovation in the consumer market.

And I agree, Nest did copy the emblematic rotary design. Though I believe it was not as a homage to Honeywell's, but rather for simplicity, aesthetics, and user-interface design.  The rotary dial affords more degrees of freedom than buttons, and looks better (it can be made "invisible" as Nest has done).
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