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Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5

First Windows Phone 8 devices will be introduced before Apple's expected mid-Sept. iPhone 5 launch, tipsters say.

Windows Phone 8 Preview: A Visual Tour
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Windows Phone 8 Preview: A Visual Tour
Nokia will be the first handset maker to announce Windows Phone 8 devices, reported Bloomberg. Citing sources familiar with Nokia's plans, Bloomberg said the new Windows Phone 8 smartphones will be revealed before the expected September 12 debut of the iPhone 5, though the phones may not go on sale until later in the year.

Microsoft announced some details of Windows Phone 8 earlier this year, and Nokia shared the stage with Microsoft to voice its support for the new platform. Windows Phone 8 is based on the same source-code kernel that Microsoft's new desktop software, Windows 8, uses. It is a break with Windows Phone 7 a bit, but unifies Microsoft's mobile and desktop platforms moving forward.

While Windows Phone 8 is a significant jump for Windows smartphones, its timing isn't so good. It is primed to hit the stage at about the same time the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 are expected to become available. It makes sense for Nokia to try to get out in front of the iPhone 5 if it can.

According to Bloomberg's sources, the announcement from Nokia may even come before its Nokia World event, planned for later in September. One issue that might bite Nokia in the behind, however, is the availability of Windows Phone 8. Microsoft hasn't indicated when WP8 will be released to handset makers, nor has Microsoft indicated when devices with WP8 on board should be expected to hit store shelves. Some reports have pegged WP8's arrival for late October or early November. Bloomberg said only that the WP8 devices announced by Nokia would be available before the holiday shopping season.

[ Learn five ways Microsoft is prepping its new phone platform for the enterprise. See Windows Phone 8: Ready For Business? ]

Nokia is facing many problems. One of them is low adoption of its Lumia Windows Phone devices in the United States. It is selling two different models, the Lumia 900 with AT&T and the Lumia 710 with T-Mobile. Combined sales of the two so far this year are somewhere near 500,000. Though sales of both devices have "exceeded expectations," they haven't even come close to matching the brisk sales of competing devices, such as the Samsung Galaxy S III and Apple iPhone 4S.

It doesn't help that neither the Lumia 900 nor 710 can be updated to Windows Phone 8. Instead, both devices will settle for Windows Phone 7.8, which brings the home screen and user interface tweaks of WP8, but not the major change in underlying architecture.

The next few months are going to be tough for Nokia, no doubt. Nokia has to hope that customers will still buy its existing smartphones knowing that they won't be updated to the latest platform from Microsoft. It needs to not only announce Windows Phone 8 products as quickly as possible, but it needs to get them on store shelves yesterday.

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dflipse333
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dflipse333,
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8/7/2012 | 4:39:10 PM
re: Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5
Agreed. MS has stated all 7.0 users will be upgraded to 7.8. So... you can get Lumia at ATT right now for $49. that will soon have 7.8. Or you can wait a few months and pay $300 or so for 8.0. What's the issue-other than we would like free updates (and free phones and free voice and data plan too).
Laurianne
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Laurianne,
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8/7/2012 | 3:57:43 PM
re: Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5
Apologies for the confusion with this photo; the slideshow includes multiple phones including the Samsung. Thanks for pointing this out. We want to make what you're getting in any slideshow clear. Thanks, Laurianne McLaughlin, InformationWeek
MemphisITDude
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8/6/2012 | 7:20:18 PM
re: Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5
Agree - MS has only succeeded in annoying the very people who decided to give them a chance. My Lumia 710 came with Windows Phone 7, but won't be upgraded to Windows Phone 8. And it's under 1 year old. By comparision when Windows 7 for the PC came out, it could run decently on PC's that were many years old.
rsantiago32802
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rsantiago32802,
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8/6/2012 | 6:58:37 PM
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I do agree with DRegalia... I'm also a fan of windows based phones but it is a shame that Nokia and Microsoft aren't offering for the Lumia 900 an upgrade to WP8. All that changes in the newer version that may hit the market by November of this year, is just hardware which shouldnt impede the Lumia 900 to handle such upgrade. Also it would be business saavy for them to do so, showing that they care for those that recently purchase a phone that appeared on the market a little less than a year ago. As well as create more loyalty towards the brand and Windows Phone operating systems. Since this will show that the both companies are thinking ahead and not creating products that can be considered useless and obsolete within a year of their inception.
Corcomm
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Corcomm,
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8/6/2012 | 6:42:12 PM
re: Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5
Is there any reason why clicking on the Nokio phone to enlarge the picture and present the slide show brings up the Samsung Android based phone instead of the Nokia Windows phone?
RobMark
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8/6/2012 | 6:36:44 PM
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Why would you want WP8 on a WP7 phone when what is new to WP8 that is not hardware specific (ie, duo core, SD card, higher resolution, NFC) is included in WP7.8? The only thing I can think of is the fact that some apps may be written only for WP8. So, with only a little of a year to go on a Lunia contract from the beginning of the year, that is the only downside until you get a new phone when the 2 year contract expires.

My BlackBerry OS7 still doesn't have a number of apps that were available on my older BlackBerry phone. My Neflix Queue Manager application still goes unsupported and unusable even though it is suppose to work on my OS7 phone. So, WP8 or WP7.8 is a better option than BB.
davesg
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8/6/2012 | 6:32:07 PM
re: Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5
They will get vendor acceptance if the customer base chooses other providers because they can't get the phone they want with the current one. It could very well be the case for me and a few employees where I work.
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DRegalia,
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8/6/2012 | 4:45:15 PM
re: Nokia Windows Phones Due Ahead Of iPhone 5
(Let me preface this by admitting i'm a MS Fanboy.. I write software for a living that is based on Windows). I have been a huge fan of windows 7.5. I bypassed 7.0 because it was too buggy. 7.5 has been awesome. HOWEVER, the promises that MS made to bind the phone companies to updates has not been enforced. Throwing out 7.8 will not happen on ATT ever.. the only phones they update are their iphones. My old Captivate never received an OS update, and my windows phone is 3 versions behind posted. ATT is Microsoft's biggest problem phone wise. They have spent so much time and Effort behind the iphone that it's hurting them. When you walk into ATT to get a phone, they lead you away from droids and the WinPhones, and push the iPhone on you. I had to specifically request the Windows Phone, wait 2 weeks for it to come into stock, and I can't get support from them. As far as pushing 8.0 ahead of iPhone is a crap move. Whats the point of hyping a product nobody can have. Whats the point of pre-ordering when your biggest supplier will not carry it anyways. Microsoft can dog and pony all they want, the problem remains that they will not get vendor acceptance.
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