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DevOps: A Culture Shift, Not A Technology

Andi Mann, author and VP at CA Technologies, says DevOps is a horrible term but a necessary IT culture change.

Andi Mann at the InformationWeek Conference, which was colocated with UBM Tech's Interop Las Vegas.
Andi Mann at the InformationWeek Conference, which was colocated with UBM Tech's Interop Las Vegas.

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andimann
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andimann,
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6/2/2014 | 1:25:45 AM
Re: DevOps or DevQops
Thanks for your comment, I could not agree more.

This is one of my issues with the term DevOps. It leaves out (literally, if not conceptually) many important parts of the end-to-end value chain for applications. QA is one of these - along with security, DBAs, network admins, and several others; and that is just within IT, not even conting business areas like HR, training, etc.

DevOps cannot be successful without these ancillary groups also adopting ways to accelerate delivery and build collaboration. But we need to be sure to make this point often and loudly - we cannot be successful if all we focus on is dev and ops.

Andi.
jwilsontrinem
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jwilsontrinem,
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4/27/2014 | 8:10:12 AM
DevOps or DevQops
Production failures might be attributable to trying to attempt the rapid implementation of change (Continuous Delivery), and organisations might believe they can deliver change more quickly by employing Continuous Integration (small frequent changes). However, even if you can effectively manage CD and CI (together assumed to be "DevOps"), large organisations still have to adhere to rigourous Quality Assurance processs.

Maybe organisations need a DevQops strategy?
andimann
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andimann,
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4/15/2014 | 7:36:40 PM
Re: Can we say something new?
@anon0242799790:

Thanks for commenting. I think you make a fair point that many pundits, myself included, have been saying something along those lines ("align IT with business") for years. But I would counter your reasonable concern with 2 points:

 

1) We keep saying it because we still haven't achieved it, and still need to find a way to do it. Survey after survey shows there is still an ongoing disconnect between IT and business leaders. The rise of 'Rogue IT' or 'Shadow IT' is a direct result of this disconnect.

2) As Charlie notes, we are starting to find some new approaches to solving this issue. While not eveything in DevOps is brand new (surely ops and devs have collaborated before), we are leveraging processes and technologies that have not existed before (devops, cloud, release automation, service virtualization, continuous everything)

 

So yes, we keep saying it. But only because we need to, and we see ways to make it happen.


Andi.

 
Charlie Babcock
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Charlie Babcock,
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4/15/2014 | 1:55:35 PM
Re: Can we say something new?
Anon024etc.,  IT has never concentrated on rapid software changes before. On the contrary IT operations has slowly come to regard them as highly dangerous and as a kind of plague. You must be very advanced in your shop if accomplishing this isn't something new. Or maybe you know all about it, just aren't doing it yet? 

 
anon0242799790
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4/15/2014 | 5:37:15 AM
Can we say something new?
Aren't the IT experts sick and tired of saying the same things for the last 2 decades or so? One is change the culture of the IT and business organization, another is align business and IT. I have heard this almost every time I open an article under a foolish assumption that it will say something different. Or maybe there is indeed nothing different to say because finally you are not indulging in rocket science but making an application. Big deal !
Charlie Babcock
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Charlie Babcock,
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4/14/2014 | 5:11:31 PM
Entrenched waterfall is hard to rechannel
There was probably no more deeply entrenched waterfall culture on earth than the Windows development team at Microsoft, when Satya Nadella arrived to announce that it was moving to a more agile approach. James Staten captured that in his guest column: http://www.informationweek.com/cloud/platform-as-a-service/nadellas-rise-as-change-agent-inside-microsoft/d/d-id/1113780 Anyone who thinks it's easy to get to five updates a month from one update every several years should check to see if Nadella agrees.

 
andimann
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andimann,
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4/14/2014 | 4:42:06 PM
Re: VIsibleOps may precede DevOps
Thnaks for the article Charlie, and the plug for 'Visible Ops - Private Cloud'. The intersection of cloud and devops is really important to help drive the speed and agility that devops is trying to achieve. After all, it is hard to release new code 5 times a week when it takes a month to stand up a new server!

Andi Mann, CA Technologies
RobPreston
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4/14/2014 | 4:20:05 PM
Re: VIsibleOps may precede DevOps
It's a common lament when technology-based movements start to mature. DevOps isn't a technology category, cloud isn't, neither is collaboration, compliance, agile development, etc. Mobile? 
Laurianne
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4/14/2014 | 3:58:54 PM
Re: VIsibleOps may precede DevOps
This reminds me of another earlier discussion: The cloud is not a technology -- or a place. This column could be useful if you are explaining DevOps to someone on the business side. Also, have you seen vendors trying to apply a DevOps coat of paint to products, readers?
sam masud
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4/14/2014 | 1:16:16 PM
He's right
Charlie:

 

I could not agree more with Andi Mann. Although he's he expert, I pretty much said the same thing a while back in a blog I wrote. Here's the link to it:

http://www.serviceprovideritreport.com/author.asp?section_id=3081&doc_id=562167
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