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11/19/2013
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8 Reasons To Hate Windows 8.1

Sure, it's an improvement over Windows 8. But for many PC users, Windows 8.1 is a clumsy hybrid that's a pain to navigate.
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moarsauce123
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11/21/2013 | 8:40:03 AM
Re: I don't understand the hate
I agree that ClassicShell is an excellent tool. I also agree that performance of Win8 is better than Win7. But that is about the only benefit of Win8. Hardware support is drastically cut back in Win8, you have this useless Metro UI floating around, and after circumventing or fixing all the flaws of Win8 you end up with something that looks like Win7 with slightly crippled capabilities. And for that we should pay money?? I don't think so!

The market of Win7 licenses will be red hot for years to come.
remmeler
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remmeler,
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11/20/2013 | 10:17:37 PM
I don't understand the hate
The reason that people hate it is that it is not XP and it is not Windows 7, but it doesn't make sense.

I have a Windows 7 and 8 system side by side.  I boot to desktop and it looks identical to my Windows 7 and runs all my Win 7 and XP programs exactly the same on Win 8

When you change just a couple of defaults like changing to the included Windows Photo Viewer in Control Panel and using the Desktop I.E. and using the email from the Windows Essentials that used to be called Live Mail, then you will never see the Modern Front End (Metro or Start Screen) unless your press a key on your keyboard.

I run an older quad processor with half the memory on my upgrade to Windows 8 system and it boots and shuts down faster than my Win 7 and is pretty much just as responsive with a couple of nice features including some for people with dual monitors.

So you get an extra operating system which might be usefull someday and it doesn't cost you anything in speed or resources.

If you remember 3 things that fit on a post-it note, then you don't need the Start Menu but I did download the Classic Shell and found that I still love my Start Menu.

The Classic Shell was developed originally because everyone hated the Vista/Windows 7 Start Button/Menu, so you get to pick which one you want, the Windows 7 version or the XP version and it is free.
rjones2818
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rjones2818,
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11/20/2013 | 1:04:29 PM
One reason to love Windows 8/8.1
It continues the trend, started with Vista, of breaking up the hegemony of Windows on the desktop.  Mind you, Windows may keep it by default, but a few enterprising IT sorts may be able to convince their bosses that MS is not the ship to tie into so completely as has happened before.
MythicalMe
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11/20/2013 | 1:26:31 AM
More reasons to hate Windows 8
I tried Windows 8 and enjoyed it until it developed a problem. The tools to track down problems are almost non-existant. You can boot into the DVD and fix it with the automatic fix-it tool or hopefully from a backup. As I repair PCs for a living 10 out of 10 people who walk through my door will have NEVER backed up their computers. Bypassing automatic booting is not optional, it's a requirement.

The ability to pull a hard drive and plug it into an external drive enclosure, and actually read the contents, is crucial. A client of mine brought in a UEFI enabled Windows 8 laptop that was all eff'd up. I tried to recover the data, but it was encrypted. the only solution was to reinstall.

Also, I'm not sure that I'm ready to trust the Internet with all of my data. Backing up files, or storing sensitive information just doesn't seem sensical given all that we know about the US government collection procedures. And if the US government (reda NSA) can figure out how to bypass AES encryption whose to say that China or even organized criminal syndicates can't figure it out. It seems to me that Windows 8 and 8.1 is all about getting people using cloud and cloud-based services and I am just not there yet.

Finally, moving from the Aero display in Windows 7 to Windows 8 flat interface just seems to be moving backwards. Compare the Windows 8 logo and the 3.1 logo. I'd much rather have my start orb than the Win 8.1 logo. I paid a fortune for my graphics card that can render 3D graphics in microseconds, why wouldn't I want 3D graphics in my desktop?
anon3125074093
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anon3125074093,
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11/19/2013 | 11:31:41 PM
Awful upgrade experience
I also had an absolutely awful upgrade experience to Windows 8.1. I was using Window 8.1 beta prior. I lost all my apps and even some documents. If interested I blogged about it
423697ABcd
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423697ABcd,
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11/19/2013 | 11:09:02 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
Be honest, I prefer to Windows 8.1 and upgrade it by following this post: http://www.lostwindowspassword.com/article/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-8-1.html

 
infowinweek
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11/19/2013 | 8:11:14 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
Thomas, i agree, you can do anything on a desktop, mainly windows pc. tablets do not work for everyone.. and not everyons skin.. windows 8 is still very useful. too bad its  expensive but if you missed out the promotion you can buy it for 39$ from http://www.windows8save.com .....   does anyone know if windows 8 will run on a apple?
Thomas Claburn
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11/19/2013 | 5:00:16 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
>I don't feel the hybrid OS approach is practical.

I agree. Desktop/laptop computers are for typing, design and programming. Tablets and phones are for communication and casual information review.
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11/19/2013 | 2:39:16 PM
Re: Mobile and Desktop Hybrids
I feel like these criticisms are pretty much the same as they were for Windows 8. Of course, like you said, 8.1 will not likely change anyone's mind.

I personally like 8 and 8.1, and I realize I'm in the minority. With that said, On the desktop I really only use the Start page for launching some apps and rarely use the Metro apps. On my Surface I mostly only stay in the Metro interface. I don't feel encumbered so much by having the two interfaces in either case, although I understand how it annoys some people. It's a weird fusion of two different design languages. Occasionally it provides some nice productivity functionality and flexibility for tablets (IMO), perhaps less so on the desktop.


It's also interesting that we're seeing Windows Phone 8 on 5+" screens, and Windows 8 on 7" tablets. At this point the lines between WP8, W8, and RT8 start to get blurred.
AliR407
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11/19/2013 | 1:29:50 PM
8.1
I like 8 but not 8.1 but to make it more annoying, Microsoft added some dodgy thing that keeps popping up saying Get Windows 8.1. I've tried it and it ruined my laptop and had to reset everything to get back to 8 :D
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