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8 Reasons To Hate Windows 8.1

Sure, it's an improvement over Windows 8. But for many PC users, Windows 8.1 is a clumsy hybrid that's a pain to navigate.
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Just how unloved is Windows 8's new interface? Consider this: One of Windows 8.1's hot new features is the ability to bypass the Live Tile user interface and boot directly to the traditional Windows desktop. It's a tacit admission by Microsoft that its ambitious goal of creating a unified interface for mobile and desktop devices hasn't exactly gotten a warm embrace from longtime Windows users.

That can't be good. Much has been written about the jarring distinction between Windows 8 and its predecessors, all of which had the same look and feel (with a few tweaks) dating back to Windows 95. Of course, change isn't necessarily a bad thing; it's often for the best, in fact, even when people resist it, which they usually do.

Windows 8 featured a new UI optimized for multitouch tablets, which Microsoft slapped on top of a crippled Windows desktop sans the Start button/menu. This one-UI-fits-all-devices approach backfired, resulting in confused end users, as well as wary enterprise uses unwilling to upgrade from earlier versions.

PC shipments began to plummet at around the same time that Windows 8 arrived. It's not fair to pin moribund PC sales entirely on Windows 8 -- for many global consumers, a tablet or smartphone is the better, cheaper choice -- but the hybrid OS was certainly a contributing factor.

A year after Windows 8's debut, Windows 8.1 is here. Is it better than its predecessor? Yes, but in small ways. The overall presentation is essentially unchanged, albeit with some needed improvements. You'll find a visual tour here.

If you're a Windows 8 hater, Windows 8.1 probably won't change your opinion of the OS. (It's worth noting that in addition to the Live Tile UI, Windows 8.x offers other enhancements, most notably faster startup times.) New features such as the return of the Start button and boot-to-desktop are welcome additions, but they might make Windows 7 users wonder: Why upgrade at all?

This doesn't mean that Windows 8.1 will fail. If touchscreen laptops and hybrid devices like Microsoft's own Surface Pro 2 prove popular with businesses and consumers, the operating system's touch-oriented UI and mobile-style apps might prove a winner in the long run. But for legacy desktops and laptops, Windows 8.x remains a hard sell.    

Here are eight reasons to hate -- or at the very least, dislike -- Windows 8.1. If you think the latest version of Windows is getting a bum rap here, let us know in the comments below.

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Nematoad
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1/16/2014 | 8:15:52 PM
Windows 8.1 Metro Apps
I am dumbfounded by the lack of any kind of menu bar, and an exit button on my new metro apps. To terminate them, you have to first open the task manager, and the close them the way you would close a hung app.
jrich751
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jrich751,
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1/13/2014 | 9:27:53 AM
Re: More reasons to hate Windows 8
I can't belive your hating on Windows because of UEFI.  You seriously need to update your game.  UEFI has nothing to do with Windows 8.1 or any operating system, for that mater.  And, yes, UEFI partitions and disks can be encrypted.

www.uefi.org
robzilla
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robzilla,
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1/10/2014 | 1:12:13 PM
Do not agree with most here.
On my traditional laptop with Windows 7 windows 8 was a disaster and for non touch devices the metro inteface takes some getting used to but Windows 8.1 is a major improvement. It is sort of like when most machines were running xp and had maybe a gig of ram and pentium 4 and tried to upgrade to Vista. Whenever there is a major change people complain and I was one of them until I got a windows tablet running 8.1. Now I can honestly say I understand what MS was doing. Right now the os is sort of a hybrid between desktop os and touch os. I think there are a few improvements to be made to make it fully functionalfor touch but that being said it is amazing what you can do on a tablet now. Having primarily used Android for tablets and apple and android for phones I really liked their interface and with Android the level of control. However I always wanted to run Ubuntu or some other full desktop os with a touch interface because sometimes you want to use more than one program at a time. I know there are exceptions to that with Samsung but it is still not the same functionality you have with windows 8.1. As I have learned how to use 8.1 and the metro interface there are some things I like about it better than traditional windows ui. For example to bring ip task manager or control panel or my computer I simply tap on the icon which I can pin to my start menu which makes common tasks I do very quick and easy. The versatility of having a desktop when I need it and metro is really great and with periferals I can use my tablet as a full blown desktop so I can get down to business or have fun all in one device. I truly see that the touch interface will replace desktops in the future and when voice recognition becomes error free then keybords and mice will not be an issue. Right now a lot of people are in that transition period and if you have old hardware it is hard to see the real beauty of the change. When you change your device you might change your mind too and as touch on windows matures it will only improve. So while I understand the complaints I do think MS did the right thing because if they had not made the changes they made and force everyone to change with them the traditional desktop would never ever die and you can't advance splitting your resources to cater to two distinct visions. Also others would say how MS is getting behind the competition and now they are leading again. Does Apple or Google offer a full OS on their tablets? Can I use an iPad or a Nexus 7 to be productive not just consumptive? Maybe that is their model but why can't I want more? Why do I need a tablet and a laptop and a smartphone. Why can't I just have a couple of devices? Simplifying is better in my opinion. I really think the future of computers will be tablets with docking stations to run like a regular pc and laptops and desktops will be made obsolete. They just need to make the ram upgradable and as long as you have a sd card expansion slot or maybe even two you are good. Larger on board storage as well. Also a user replacable battery. Once these features are incorperated into the tablets and docking stations become the norm to run monitors, etc then I really see nothing holding these tablets back. Maybe I am nuts but so far I really like windows 8.1. It boots insanely fast, faster than android and is pretty stable. I also disagree that the two ii interfaces are not well matched. They are different no doubt but that is lind of the point. Sometimes on a tablet I want to use the desktop ui and sometimes I like a ui more suited for touch but making me only be able use one style is called android or ios. If I wanted to be forced into only one ecosystem I would choose their design model which is limited. There may be a way to more gracefully combine the two ui but for now this is as good as it hets and my big suggestion for MS is allow pinch and zoom in desktop mode for the touch ui. I think the combination of both interfaces is what makes Windows 8.1 shine ans for some is also its weakness. However as usual with Microsoft we at least get to make the choice. You can set up your desktop to run much like windows 7 and enjoy the faster boot up time, lower resource use, and better security and you can also add touch to that experience as well. Also the metro interface lists different aspects of an applications features graphically. How else are they supposed to do it? I think I can read a description that tells me what is the app and what is the uninstaller. It is not comfusing to me. I do not see the 8 things to hate about windows 8 as being particularly important but almost amway to look for problems. You can complain about anything.
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1/9/2014 | 2:30:14 PM
Re: SORRY Microfoft but..........
Agreed. There is no compelling reason to even speak to Microsoft anymore. They are completely out of touch with virtually any customer using any of their products. I work at a university. We had Microsoft come in to make a pitch for one of their ID management solutions. These people could not get their presentation to run, could not get a WebEx connection to work, were unable to demo threir product. If that wasn't bad enough, they were unable to answer licensing questions because of the complexity of their licensing schemes. I felt embarrassed for them, I could not imagine working with such crap in such a confused (dis)organization. We are not moving to Windows 8, and are actively pursuing Linux based alternatives. Microsoft now has a CERTIFICATION for Windows licensing specialist... 8 courses... What an epic fail. I have wanted to abandon Microcrap for a long time, Thanks Steve for making such a compelling argurment for me... you did all the work! Nice job... 
remmeler
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remmeler,
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1/9/2014 | 12:27:25 PM
I found out something interesting
I always said that those that hate Windows 8/8.1 are mainly legacy windows users that refuse to realize that clicking on the Desktop Tile or booting right to Desktop will give them a slightly improved Windows 7 with no loss of resources due to the Modern Front End that may be useful someday.


But my big suprise is that I gave my adult daughter (a smart phone user) an Asus 8.1 Transformer tablet with attachable keyboard because she is a long time Windows program user on the computer.  She has really only used apps on the tablet and has never attached the keyboard.  I think it is because she is used to swiping and touch on her smartphone.


Not that the touch on 8.1 is perfect, but it will probably improve.
anon1873014840
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1/8/2014 | 10:22:28 PM
Re: SORRY Microfoft but..........
You can't be serious.  I'm no Apple fan and work in a 1200+ seat MS enviroment.  But Apples are not harder to repair than a Windows box.  They are better built and Apple controls the components that go into assembly.  They do not break down near as often as our Windows boxes do.  But I, and you, digress.  This is a Windows 8 discussion and the view is that it is horrible.  The only reason I found this thread is because I am at this moment trying to get a friends new HP desktop up and running.  I have never been more frustrated in my life.  First I can't get past the stupid tiles.  WTF are they for?  When I finally got in I wanted to update to the "much improved" 8.1.  I am told it is in the Windows Store.  Where?  I see a bunch of unproductive crap that I would never let into an enterprise enviroment but no Windows 8.1 upgrade.  Ok so I Google, not Bing, it and am told that I may not see the upgrade unless I have run some W8 updates first.  So I run Windows update and there are 78 updates I've got to let run before I can get this POS updated to basically another POS OS with different lipstick.  Christ MS!  We wanted the"Start Button" which led to the "Start Menu".  We wanted to get away from your tiles not back to them.  I can't begin express what a massive fail Window 8.Whatever is.  I am not going to beg that you fix it.  I am just going to use my Android tablet for "fun" stuff and my Windows 7 box for anything productive.  Oh and good luck on trying to convince everyone that there is finally one user experience for all your devices.  The Windows phone isn't even a player, the Surface is a bloated tablet with a dearth of decent applications and developers who could a shit, and then you top it off by making the desktop unusable.  Good job Steve. Way to shit your nest then split.
mfriedman190
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1/6/2014 | 12:04:52 PM
Re: SORRY Microfoft but..........
Your facts are wrong for all: MS, Apple, and Google. Apprentice for sure.
moonwatcher
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1/4/2014 | 1:51:37 PM
Re: 8 Reasons to hate Windows 8.1 if you already hate it.
Sorry, but the "Start" button in Win 8.1 is NOT a "real" Start button. Give us users who have no intention of blowing money on a touch sensitive monitor the old Start button from Windows 7. OK, se we CAN install Classic Shell or Start8 from Stardock, but the the bottom line is that we shouldn't HAVE to do so at all. Forcing the inferior tablet interface on us desktop users, most of which already have bought into either iOS or Android tablets, was a dumb decision by Microsoft. And jeez even us old scumbag Windows users had grown to love the Aero interface of Windows 7. Now it looks like a 4th graders gaudy idea of Crayola heaven, with endless scrolling required to get to the apps you might want. At least they did allow us to bypass Metro and boot directly to the desktop, so I guess in that respect it was an upgrade...BTW, on several computers I've noted that it sometimes takes more than one attempt to move the mouse to the corner to get the charms bar to pop up. Just a waste of the users time and patience... I have an old XP box (ancient Core 2 Duo) that is going strong. Looks like I'll upgrade to Windows 7 Home or Pro, but I sure wish it were cheaper. Hell, I'd upgrade to Window 8.1 (and fix it) if it were cheaper. Seems the original $39 was about what it was worth.
diabloggical
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1/3/2014 | 1:41:08 PM
Re: 8000 reasons galore and counting
I wish I could give you 100 thumbs up.  It's like Microsoft is trying to drive customers away. 
diabloggical
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diabloggical,
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1/3/2014 | 1:39:04 PM
Windows 8 and 8.1

Yes a lot of people are using tablets recreationally now, but laptops are for working and no is talking about the way Windows has continuously reduced productivity. With every update they add keystrokes and change things just to change them without reason. (What was wrong for clicking "Y" to save or "N" for new?) Used to be able to ALT,F,U to get into document set-up, now you have to mouse it all the way. Thank heaven for Windows Explorer (now File Explorer), even though it takes 5 actions to get to the file you need to access. Why not give users the choice to automatically bypass those ridiculous tiles.  

While I'm at it, what's up with Outlook? All if a sudden all folders default to a reading view and must be changed individually, plus with the 8.1 upgrade when writing a new email the toolbar moves to the "File" tab - absolutely the last tab you would ever use when writing an email (you need to be on the "Message" tab). BTW, maybe 8.0 booted up faster, but 8.1 is way slower. I can make coffee and clean my kitchen while I wait - and it is definitely not the fault of my new MSi computer. 

 

Also, the new Start button is a joke.  Is that a passive-aggressive Microsoft stab at its PC user base?  They couldn't do more to create a customer base for a smart competitor.  There are a lot of us looking for a Windows alternative.

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