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12/4/2013
02:46 PM
Michael Endler
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Microsoft Is Not Killing Windows RT

Despite rumors to the contrary, Microsoft will unify its operating systems, not eliminate product lines.

Microsoft is dropping the Windows RT branding, but don't expect it to drop the Windows RT vision.
Microsoft is dropping the Windows RT branding, but don't expect it to drop the Windows RT vision.

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SaneIT
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3/11/2014 | 8:17:45 AM
Re: Dear Microsoft
I think the key with Win 8 is committing to the one OS across every platform.  Since MS has a desktop mode in the x86 version that makes it hard to keep the same OS and UI when moving to ARM based devices.  The concept is a good one but the execution is lacking.
LouisH305
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LouisH305,
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3/10/2014 | 10:37:57 PM
Re: Dear Microsoft
SaneIT, I really laughed out loud about the comment it's like Windows but not Windows!!  I work EXTENSIVELY with Microsoft SCOM and SCCM and I swear MS is so stubborn in so many ways.  They took a product like NetIQ and made it extremely complex; and then they tell you they are doing everything they can to make it "easier to manage."   It's a similar issue with their tablet market; they just can't seem to get it right.   Please, for the love of god MS, do what you can to merge with the functionality of Windows 8 Pro.  I am generally happy with my Surface; I paid 200 bucks for it; it's a great device, but they are really not going to compet with Apple at this rate. 
jries921
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12/27/2013 | 4:44:43 PM
MS is still between CEOs
So all bets are off.  All we really know is that Steve Ballmer isn't going to pull the trigger, but we knew that already.

 
CallumH770
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12/9/2013 | 2:54:17 PM
Re: Focus on enterprises
Removing the desktop is the WORST idea. The Desktop is what makes Windows RT a potantially great OS! I think they should be allowing developers to make desktop apps for RT. But Microsoft forcing Metro (sorry, Modern) style apps on all devs is killing RT as a platform.
Michael Endler
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12/9/2013 | 2:43:34 AM
Re: Focus on enterprises
Will the touch-first Office apps be any good-- that's a big question.

Microsoft is taking a while to finish these touch-first Office apps finished. The company will surely make touch-first apps exclusive to Windows tablets for a few months-- but if the apps aren't great, will they prove a major differentiator? The traditional version of Office hasn't helped Windows tablets much so far. I think Windows tablets will grow in popularity in coming months, now that Windows 8.1 has smoothed over some wrinkles, and now that some of the devices are coming way down in price. But they're still going to be a distant third option, and though they'll be more popular in the enterprise, they won't force the iPads out. It's clear that Office hasn't been the major differentiator that Microsoft hoped, and if the touch-first versions aren't compelling, iOS/ Android users will only be that much more invested in alternatives.

Analysts talk about all the billions that Microsoft could earn by releasing Office for the iPad-- and that would probably be true, today. But if the touch-first apps aren't excellent, will iPad users care when Microsoft finally gets around to releasing them? Is Microsoft missing its window for leveraging Office to monetize iOS's success? Office commands a huge degree of respect, in whatever form, because Office compatibility is so important to so many businesses. But if touch-first Office doesn't roll around until late 2014/ early 2015, and iOS users don't gain access until late 2015/ early 2016, what then?

For what it's worth, I find OneNote quite useful on Surface-sized touch devices, though I'm not sure if it sets a high enough bar to overcome all the questions I mentioned.
Greenleaf
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12/6/2013 | 3:44:15 AM
Re: Focus on enterprises
Touch is good but only on hand held devices. It's fine for Microsoft to enable touch on PCs but the desktop is necessary for developers which I am one of. Having an app take over the entire screen is a show stopper for me. Also it seems like Microsoft cares more about video games than they do about Visual Studio. I get the distinct feeling that Microsoft is tired of us developers. Look at Novell for example. They developed this got to have network for PCs running Windows but instead of giving tham an award, Microsoft practically ran them out of business. I totally don't think that Microsoft likes anybody but themselves developing on their platform. I know they hate it when you report a bug. They are out right hostile then.
Li Tan
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12/6/2013 | 3:27:26 AM
Re: it was coming
For me Windows RT just appeared in the market once and then it went rather silently. Surface is the first MS tablet product and did not prevail in the market. Surface 2 is much better and for a tablet product designed as something between pad and super-book, it's reasonable to have Windows 8/Windows 8.1 installed on it. From strategic point of view, it will be benefitical to have a unified platform for mobile devices but it can behave differently, depending on where it's deployed.
mak63
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12/5/2013 | 7:07:04 PM
it was coming
I believe is a great idea to combine the windows phone OS with RT. But now that the Surface 2 and future tablets are dropping the RT moniker, isn't a little confusing? Now both tablets run Windows 8.1, The difference is just on the "pro" of the Surface name. Is this enough for the consumers to understand the difference between the Windows tablets?

 
twilliamson423
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12/5/2013 | 3:54:48 PM
Re: Focus on enterprises
Without having seen any examples of Excel, Word, or Powerpoint, I have used the touch version of OneNote on a Surface RT device. I can say it is not as fully capable as the desktop version but it is capable enough to get the job done and they have been adding substantial improvements with enough frequency to keep me interested. I'm waiting to see where it ends up.

I would say it is at least as functional as the WebApps, but I haven't used them in a while so I don't know where they stand now.
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12/5/2013 | 3:23:53 PM
Re: Focus on enterprises
Microsoft can always go corporate raiding for its touch screen technology. Every company does it.
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