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Geekend: Star Wars/Star Trek Rumor Mills In Hyper-Drive

Internet is breaking under the strain of so many rumors about our favorite geek franchises.

Welcome to the second installment of the Geekend on InformationWeek. If this is a new concept for you, check out last week's column for an explanation. If you are an old Geekend veteran, you'll be excited that we’re covering rumors about some old friends this week.

Earlier this week the Internet giddily glowed with rumors about two of our favorite series -- Star Trek and Star Wars. Star Wars Episode VII (am I the only one that is glad that we're back to episodes matching the number of movies? When someone says "the seventh one," we all know which one that means unlike "the fourth one") broke the interwebs with two rumors -- the Millennium Falcon is back and we have some high class new cast members. Star Trek inspired people to fix the interwebs so it could announce (and then recant) that Netflix had partnered with CBS to make a new Star Trek series. Then it promptly broke again.

Of course, my little geek heart went all a flutter, especially when pictures leaked of the Falcon in mid construction and JJ Abrams cleverly posted this picture.

My advice to JJ -- let the Wookie (and Twitter) win. Rumors are just going to keep coming, like the one that just leaked about Simon Pegg being cast because he visited the set and has been in every JJ Abrams movie since Abrams's film school project -- Lens Flare Cabaret.

You can't stop the rumors nor worry about confirming or denying them all. And Abrams cleverly understood that with his non-denial denial picture.

In fact, I say embrace the rumors. Throw more out there. Enough rumors and we may actually get a new Star Trek series because CBS will see how much buzz the rumors create. And it is a good way to keep a movie that hasn't even been made in the public eye. Remember how much buzz Boy's Life got from claiming Tony Stark designed R2-D2, and there was a Marvel crossover movie coming?

So in that spirit I thought I'd throw out some rumors that I'd like to see come true:

The new Star Trek series is coming and it is about Klingons. You may have heard the actor who played Worf, Michael Dorn, is trying to get a Captain Worf series going. I have to say, with all apologies to Dorn, that Worf on a ship is probably played out. I'd like to see a series with Klingons based on the homeworld and the intrigue in the High Council. How about Worf on the High Council with a corrupt leader of the high council loyal in some way to the Duras family?

Another new Trek series called Star Fleet Academy. Think of it as Saved By the Bell meets Star Trek.

Why would anyone want that, you ask? Because Star Trek characters got a bit stuffy in the later years of the Next Generation and shows beyond that. In Star Fleet you have all these fit, brilliant people around and all they do in their spare time is read old books and play poker. It would be fun to bring back the playfulness of the original series with all flirting but less of the sexism.

Episode IX features a Death Star. You know you want it. The only good Star Wars movies featured one. How could we do it any other way?

Episode VII features Hayden Christensen ... dying in a pleasing way like King Joffrey on Game of Thrones. Let's face it, Hayden was so bad that he nearly single-handedly brought down a franchise. Watching him being dismembered to rise as James Earl Jones was not enough. Fans deserve to see him die. They deserve to react like this (by the way, special geek honors goes to the young woman on the left who complains about cutting the wedding cake with Valyrian steel):

Luke Skywalker gets injured in episode VII and needs a Vader-like mask and is voiced by James Earl Jones. I don't know why this makes sense or anything. I just don't like Mark Hammill's squeaky voice.

Darth Vader comes back ... and he really is all of these peoples’ father.

So what rumors would you like to have come out? Which of them are you hoping are true? Do you want a new Star Trek series? Excited for Episode VII? What do you think the plot will be? Comment below.

David has been writing on business and technology for over 10 years and was most recently Managing Editor at Enterpriseefficiency.com. Before that he was an Assistant Editor at MIT Sloan Management Review, where he covered a wide range of business topics including IT, ... View Full Bio
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Michelle
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Michelle,
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6/13/2014 | 10:00:47 AM
Well played
It's only the second installment of Geekend here and already we're reading about Star Wars & Star Trek!
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/13/2014 | 11:34:18 AM
Re: Well played
@Michelle- Next week...carbon nanotubes. :)
Michelle
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Michelle,
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6/13/2014 | 5:02:11 PM
Re: Well played
@Dave perhaps it's time to recycle some of your old geekend posts to give them new life...garbage to gold and all that. :)
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/13/2014 | 5:15:18 PM
Re: Well played
@Michelle- Thanks! They're coming. I promise for better or for worse. :)
stotheco
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stotheco,
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6/18/2014 | 8:21:15 AM
Re: Well played
Ahh, I can see it now: "The Best of Geekend" "The Golden Geekend" I've followed and loved all of David's Geekend posts. Glad to see they are now here!
StaceyE
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StaceyE,
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6/30/2014 | 7:26:49 PM
Re: Well played
That's a great idea, I look forward to it!
batye
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batye,
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7/1/2014 | 7:16:28 PM
Re: Well played
could not agree more interesting point...
StaceyE
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StaceyE,
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7/31/2014 | 10:10:19 AM
Re: Well played
@ batye

I too find the Geekend's very entertaining.
batye
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batye,
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8/3/2014 | 12:15:12 AM
Re: Well played
yes, as Dave always able to get/create something interesting :)
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PedroGonzales,
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6/13/2014 | 11:45:50 AM
Re: Well played
I would like to see the star trek academy.  I'm sure this will get very popular among younger audience with the introduction of drama among the member of the academy.  I thought there was a rumor about somehow the member of the star trek somehow end up in the  star wars universe.

 
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/13/2014 | 1:06:07 PM
Re: Well played
@Pedro- I think it would be fun to see a spoofy Star Wars-Star trek cross over. But you've got a problem there. If Star Wars took place a long time ago in a galaxy, far, far away for 1970's America, then 24 century Star Trek earth is even farther away. 

We'll have to send the Enterprise through a worm hole or something. :)
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Shane M. O'Neill,
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6/13/2014 | 11:55:53 AM
New life to the Death Star
Not really jonesing for a Star Trek show. It's been done and done well. The rebooted movies have been great entertainment too. Star Wars, on the other hand, bring it on. The franchise has so much to proof after the hot mess that was Episodes I - III. The Death Star is a necessity too. I don't care if the evil empire is dead broke from having to rebuild it yet again -- the Death Star is in the picture, this time with free Wi-Fi and over 500 Starbucks on premise.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/13/2014 | 1:08:12 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
@Shane- Yes, let's stop doing the things we've done well in the past. :)

No, I get it. But honestly, I'm at the point where Next Gen seems dated. I could use some new Enterprise adventures. 

And i love the idea of Starbucks overwhelming the Death Star. Since the Soviet Union was always called the Death Star and it was overwhelmed by capitalism, it would be fun to watch the same thing happen to the other Evil Empire. :)
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batye,
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6/13/2014 | 3:33:55 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
Dave... do not give up Dark Lord Mister Putin did not finish his game yet :)
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/13/2014 | 3:35:22 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
Ha! I think Putin is like whoever the bad guy will be in Episode VII, someone we'll never think is as cool or evil as Darth Vader. :)
batye
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batye,
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6/13/2014 | 3:48:17 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
Dave... I think with Putin it like New Russian Tzar by KGB, oh sorry it FSB now... 
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/13/2014 | 4:07:11 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
I hope my asking for more interesting rumors from Star Wars isn't to blame for this: http://www.vanityfair.com/vf-hollywood/harrison-ford-star-wars-injury


Harrison Ford hurt his ankle during filming.

Anyone else think it it a bad omen that he hurt it on the door of the Millenium Falcon?
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6/13/2014 | 11:24:58 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
@Dave, not a bad omen. Simply what you get when you cast an 80-year-old man in your movie and ask him to move. Love Harrison Ford, but no more Star Wars of Indiana for him, please!
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jastroff,
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6/14/2014 | 8:17:28 AM
Re: New life to the Death Star
After LOST, I stopped trusting JJ Abrams and his ability to tell a story.

I got it back after Star Wars.

 

But, JJ is no Spielberg, and Spielberg is no Kubrick.

 

 
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/14/2014 | 12:19:30 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
@jastro- Well, fortunately he only has to live up to Lucas, the Lucas that gave us episodes one through three. :)
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batye,
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6/13/2014 | 3:40:34 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
I think Star Trek gonna have new movie soon on a big screen... but we will see...
Thomas Claburn
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6/13/2014 | 5:40:48 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
I'm ready for the reboot of Space 1999. Please, someone step up and make it.
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6/16/2014 | 3:44:26 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
@Thomas that's one I've never see but would be curious to check out as a reboot.
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LUFU,
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6/13/2014 | 6:21:42 PM
Show No Mercy. Give No Quarter
I say toss Hayden Christensen into the Lego Ewok Village and let him suffer the insufferable.
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6/16/2014 | 9:08:04 AM
Bring back Vader
How many movies have killed off the villain only to have them come back later in the movie or in the sequel?  I know the whole ghosts of dead Jedi thing would indicate that he really died but the whole ghost Jedi thing could be used as a way to re-incarnate characters.  I'd love to see the whole Vader/Anakin Skywalker struggle done a little more like the Clone Wars series than the movie prequels.
David Wagner
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6/16/2014 | 12:41:55 PM
Re: Bring back Vader
@SaneIt- I love it! A reformed Vadar would be awesome. Maybe he can come back like a giant eye like Sauron. No seriously, what a great idesa, because no one could possibly live up to the character that James Earl Jones and George Lucas created. 

The only problem is that he redeemed himself. I wonder how you "turn" a ghost?
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6/19/2014 | 8:20:34 AM
Re: Bring back Vader
I'm about to geek out here so stay with me, this is the geekend post so I think I'll be OK.  During the Clone Wars series (yes I know it's for kids, I have 3 so I'm allowed to watch)  they cover Mortis, a planet that is the conduit for the entire force.  A neutral father has spent an eternity trying to keep balance between his two children, one that personifies the light side and the other that personifies the dark side.  They bring Anakin there to take over for the father because he is dying.  So the story line is set that Anakin/Vader is neither good or evil he controls both sides of the force.  Seeing Anakin/Vader in that light changes how you look at what he is doing.  He's not necessarily evil as Vader he is balancing power in the galaxy.  An all seeing eye in the Sauron sense would work and could be a good way to show his awareness and his influence.
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6/19/2014 | 1:10:36 PM
Re: Bring back Vader
@SaneIT- Wow, i just geeked right along with you there. That's awesome. And it is brought up that Anakin is supposed to bring balance to the force. Having the Sith die isn't balance. That is simply bringing the Dark Side to an end. 

I could totally see a dead Anakin working some sort of balancing act work in some way. 

By the way, since this was published the rumor going around is that the bad guys are a group of three "Jedi Hunters." I'm unimmpressed by the idea of Jedi Hunters since clearly they don't have the Force like a Jedi. We've seen no regular people (except maybe Han) who can can stand up at all to even a a Regular Joe jedi, much less be difficult for a Master to fight. I fear they will simply stand around looking menacing for quite a while until being beaten.
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6/20/2014 | 7:11:45 AM
Re: Bring back Vader
Unless they are Mandalorians then I'm not so sure I'm going to buy a band of 3 Jedi hunters.  It's kind of funny to look at the series from the point of view that the light side was far more prevalent than the dark side so killing off all of the Jedi would be required to bring balance.  It makes you wonder if they ever had that conversation in the Jedi order.  "There can only be two Sith, a master and an apprentice, so how many Jedi do we have?"
David Wagner
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6/20/2014 | 1:06:35 PM
Re: Bring back Vader
@SaneIT- Ha! I doubt that most Jedi assumed balance meant nearly an equal number of Jedi. :)

But one thing I've always hated about the Jedi other than old Obi Wan in episode IV is that they are all so darn smug. They always feel like they know exactly what is right. It was almost enjoyable to watch them get slaughtered.
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6/20/2014 | 6:56:57 PM
Re: Bring back Vader
Most of the film's profits have been eaten up by the insurance payments to Harrison Ford... :-)

Don't put an old guy in a young movie, unless he's Alec Guiness
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6/18/2014 | 8:16:56 AM
Re: Bring back Vader
Exactly. So many villains have "died", only to be resurrected and brought back to life in one way or another. Sometimes it's because they're so popular; other times, it's because no other villain has stepped in and stepped up to the plate, so to speak. 
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6/19/2014 | 8:08:39 AM
Re: Bring back Vader
Now I'm wondering what the ratio is of villains coming back to life vs heroes who fake their deaths to come back and surprise a villain.  Maybe this is a tactic that both sides use and we only see it from the hero's perspective when a villain dies.  Maybe he's faking his death so that he can recover without harassment and make the hero feel overconfident.  When watching the Star Wars series I feel cheated by the prequels because the fall from little kid Anakin to Vader is like a Karate Kid training montage. 
David Wagner
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6/19/2014 | 1:12:24 PM
Re: Bring back Vader
@SaneIT- Yup. When the prequels were announced I was in grad school for creative writing, and I told everyone who would listen that they were a bad idea. It puts you in a bad storytelling space. Either you are telling people things they already know or you are makign stuff up that never happened before. There were really good reasons why George decided to "start int he middle" with Episode IV to begin with. He should have stuck to the reasons.
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6/16/2014 | 12:56:31 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
@Rich- I'm sure you are right. But 8 weeks is a long time. They are still saying the movie will be on schedule, but two months without the best actor in the movie is goign to be rough. Especially when that actor is so old that pushing him when he comes back might be a bad idea. He's playing a part that requires energy, even if the character has aged. 

Not trying to insult older folks. I know plenty who can run circles around me. I'm just tyring to respect the crazy schedules that actors in movies like these have to keep.
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6/16/2014 | 10:31:05 PM
Re: New life to the Death Star
@Rich, fair enough. I will go back to believing it's a bad omen that Han got injured on set, and that the Star Wars gods are angry that the franchise has been bought by the devil, I mean, Disney.
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6/17/2014 | 4:33:22 PM
Rumors and wishes
Maybe we can use the power of the internet in reverse, we might be able to start rumors about shows we don't like being cancelled and build momentum! 

Seriously I would love to see companies pay more attention to their sentiment. This week the airlines should listen to all the disgruntled travelers after they changed their frequent flier programs.

 
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6/18/2014 | 11:49:31 AM
RE: Star Wars/Star Trek Rumor Mills in Hyper-Drive
Good to see we're finally invading another site with our baseless movie speculation :). I mean that sincerely - I don't know if I could get through the week without it. I'm definitely attuned more to the sci-fi end of things than the comic one (not that there isn't plenty of crossover), so it's good to see these two heavy hitters back in the spotlight. You've definitely got a knack for the rumor-mill, Dave... I have my ear pressed pretty close to the floor when it comes to this stuff, but you always seem to be able to mention something that I haven't heard yet. More importantly, you've got an interesting opinion to go with it - unlike the linked TMZ 'articles', which are about five lines long.

There's a lot riding on these next Star Wars and Star Trek movies (let's assume it's a given that another Trek movie is happening). Certainly, any producer or marketing exec will agree on that... but it goes double for those of us with geeky hearts. These two will set the tone for how sci-fi will be viewed for the rest of the decade; if we'll get more movies or series, how our beloved 'extended universes' (or is that just me) will be handled... and if people are still going to stuff us into lockers. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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6/18/2014 | 12:10:39 PM
RE: Star Wars/Star Trek Rumor Mills in Hyper-Drive
@zerox203- Thanks. A new rumor for you. They've decided after the accident with Harrison Ford that the new bad guy will be the Millenium Falcon brought to life. :)




Seriously, I think you are right. The stakes are high. The generation of Star Wars fans that owned every Star Wars figure (like everyone else, i kept mine in a case that was Darth Vader's head) now has kids and grand kids.

The prequels did fine on merchandise but were not the juggernaut of the original (when adjusted for a changing market). 

But right now might be the sweet spot for a new set of movies money-wise. And from a story perspective, you've got a surprsingly sci-fi free television field right now. Lots of super hero fare. Lots of fantasy. Lots of supernatural stuff. A geek paradise...unless you are into pure space sci-fi.


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6/19/2014 | 1:12:18 PM
Star wars prophecy
Hmm, What I want them to cover? for star trek we have this whole balance of the force prophecy thing going on. i want to see something where we go back to when that prophecy was made, because I really want to figure out how they messed up the interpretation of that.

I also love the idea of star fleet academy, because you can have brilliant people making really dumb decisions and it makes sense because their brains aren't fully formed.
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