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Inside Kayak's Search For Seasoned IT Talent

A few wrinkles won't hurt job candidates at travel company Kayak, which says it's struggling to fill senior technology jobs in its US office. And H-1B visas don't entirely solve the problem.

Image: hobvias sudoneighm (Flickr)
Image: hobvias sudoneighm (Flickr)

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factchecker2000
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4/19/2014 | 6:29:37 AM
Re: Karma is a ....
So, you're neither a proponent nor a critic of H-1B visas? Why not? Does that mean you think there might be some reason that makes this ok? http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247744/H_1B_loophole_may_help_California_utility_offshore_IT_jobs_
rrdonovan
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4/18/2014 | 4:27:31 PM
Re: Karma is a ....
Looking for talent huh? Well, I am a Technologist with 100+ hrs on my PhD., 16 technical schools, and 35 years experience in electronics, electromechanics, and computer systems. When interviewed, it is usually by some snot nosed 26 year old who wants to give me tests, or wants me to eleaborate on the 7 networking layers, or says that I am not qualified to do what I have done for 35 years. They prefer to hire boy toys, or girl toys. That's why the recreation room. No work ethics, no class, Why would I, a seasoned veteran want to work for a bunch of stupid, no talent kids?

 

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4/16/2014 | 10:01:23 PM
Re: Karma is a ....
Like Rob, I'm neither a proponent nor critic of H-1Bs. Rather, I just see it as a relevant topic for the IT community. But I think there are a couple of misconceptions below, one of which I covered in a previous story (http://www.informationweek.com/strategic-cio/team-building-and-staffing/h-1b-visas-6-most-misunderstood-facts/d/d-id/898928). First, there's no rule in the H-1B process that employers must show they're unable to hire for the position(s) locally/domestically before applying for visas on the behalf of employees. (That's true of green cards, not H-1Bs.) Second, experience isn't really one of the key requirements for H-1B eligibility. Rather, the visas are for "specialty occupations" (including non-IT roles, like fashion models) requiring very specific skill sets. Certainly, experience is one way to develop those skills -- and something that plenty of employers are looking for. But education/degree is the more clear-cut factor for H-1B eligibility: http://www.uscis.gov/eir/visa-guide/h-1b-specialty-occupation/understanding-h-1b-requirements
RobPreston
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4/16/2014 | 12:47:35 PM
Re: Karma is a ....
I'm neither a proponent nor a critic of H-1B visas -- employers will do what's in their own interests -- but the program isn't reserved specifically for seasoned and highly experienced roles. And in fairness to the Kayak CTO, he isn't saying it's H-1B or bust. He sees the program as just one of the options at his disposal.
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4/16/2014 | 11:49:39 AM
Re: Karma is a ....
H1B's are only supposed to be brought over here for seasoned and highly experienced roles, where you can't find local candidates - legally.  By  hiring H1B's for entry level/low experience roles, the CTO is openly admitting to breaking the law.
VinceN487
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4/16/2014 | 11:47:26 AM
No More H1b's
what makes stupid employers think that they can just bring anyone over here to work, becasue they think they are offering a "good deal"..?..where did they get these crazy ideas.  Kayak can't find who they want, but somehow india is full of all the right fake-resume'd H1B's to make these right, what a bunch of b/s that is.  That's not how our society works, and H1B was never intended as a vehicle to replace American workers on American soil.  There are all  kinds of options available to an H1B-lovin' employer, but none of them include bringing over H1B and L1 job robbers for the purposes of wrecking our economy. And if the intentions and motivations are sincere, then blame your canundrum on previous H1B users who've complete raped the system for the last 15 years, you can thank those who've come before you for spoiling the H1B party.  No sympathy for H1B abusers, H1B needs to end right now
bglynn064
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4/16/2014 | 11:37:27 AM
Re: Your reaction?
here's a suggestion. like all idiot industries stop requiring "prior travel site experience". technology doesnt know what industry its being used in
RobPreston
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4/16/2014 | 11:09:19 AM
Re: Karma is a ....
The CTO clearly said that he's considering H-1Bs among the pool of fresh graduates Kayak is interviewing, not for the seasoned talent it's going after. 
factchecker2000
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4/16/2014 | 5:52:16 AM
Karma is a ....
This guy has a talent shortage all right, but it's in his HR department. He says he wants seasoned talent and boasts a game room? Something's not right here. And seasoned talent is not what you get from India. Creative writing (their resumes) is more like it. Does he offer telecommuting? He can go to the ends of the earth, but he doesn't want to expand his local range by offering telecommuting? Sounds fishy to me. I wouldn't buy stock in this company, or any company that invests in H-1Bs.

Over the past 15 years, literally hundreds of thousands of American IT careers were destroyed by bringing in H-1Bs and by sending jobs overseas. I run into ex-IT Americans everywhere. The man who measured my son for his graduation suit, the husband of a coworker who now works in a bicycle shop, a woman at a craft fair ...

So we kick a large percentage of Americans out of the IT field, to the point where parents like me are telling their kids to be good with computers but major in something else, and this guy wonders why he can't find talent?

The answer is simple. He should pick gifted Americans who have most of what he wants and let them grow in the job. The only thing "seasoned" about an H-1B is their brown-bag lunch.
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4/15/2014 | 4:09:22 PM
Re: Telework?
Telecommuting has its pros and cons depending on the group's culture. I have heard several CIOs tell me that they must be within reach of public transportation in the Boston area in order to attract and retain developers. However, I also know CIOs who recruit talent to out of the way locales like Springfield MA. Anyone have advice to share for hiring managers outside of city centers?
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