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11/17/2014
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Charles Babcock
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Amazon's Container Strategy, Examined

Amazon believes it can win developers with new AWS Container Service, despite Google's big headstart.

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Ashu001
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11/20/2014 | 9:03:31 AM
Re: Limited options for containers in the cloud today
Brian, Fair enough statement to make here. we (it departments)are going to haveto do a lot more trial and error to see how things r going here and what works for us and what doesn't. That much is pretty obvious here! Experience is the ultimate teacher.
Ashu001
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11/20/2014 | 8:59:33 AM
Re: A good reason to move to AWS... or Compute Engine
Charlie, Fair enough statement to make.bottomline is we want stuff that works well enough for our diverse needs in IT Today.what may work well right now may not quite cut it next month. our infrastructure as well as our containers have to evolve accordingly. Its good to see the big two contine to work hard to innovate and deliver a solution that meets customer requirements in most cases.
Brian Bartlett
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11/20/2014 | 1:10:35 AM
Re: Limited options for containers in the cloud today
The reference to the sidelines was actually monitoring Docker on GitHub. I can remember heady days such as they are having. ('Awesome', 'Cool', 'Righteous' come to mind which definitely dates me.) The virtualization platforms are nice in all but are proprietary no matter which angle you look at them, thus you have API surfaces exposed that have to be translated from one provider to another. There isn't even 'real' compatability even in one stack within an overarching stack such as OpenStack. All those moving bits tend to claim just a bit more mindshare than a slightly different (corporate controlled variant) stack.

Docker seems to erase even more of the attention to externalities required than previous VM iterations. Having used virtualization since the 1970's, and having it a required feature in my labs, I like to think I have a clue about how things are going. I like where Docker is going. Service Oriented Architecture, near universal API's around your services, controllable-actionable object orientation, all that good stuff that's promised by never happens.

And, oh yes, Amazon gets my vote, for now. Given CoreOS as a baseline, that'll do for now. I'll reserve judgement on the rest until I can throw something at the wall and see if it sticks.
Charlie Babcock
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11/19/2014 | 3:32:39 PM
A good reason to move to AWS... or Compute Engine
Yes, Ashish, AWS Container Service is a good reason to move to Amazon, just as Google Container Engine announced Nov. 4 is a good reason to move to Compute Engine or App Engine. If Container Engine tracks the Kubernetes project, and I expect it will, then Container Engine may have an edge in deploying sets of containers with different designated characteristics. I think Kubernetes developers are thinking, not in terms of deploying one container, but sets of containers with certain characteristics intended to work together. Container management is about to be come a rapdily moving field.
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11/19/2014 | 11:37:51 AM
Re: Amazon amplifiexs explanation of what EC2 Container Service can do
Charlie,

That seems like an enormous reason to transistion to Amazon don't you think so?

Especially if the Transistion can be done smoothly and with Minimal Fuss ;I for one am game for it.

Regards

Ashish.
Ashu001
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11/19/2014 | 11:35:18 AM
Re: Limited options for containers in the cloud today
Lorna,

I don't think OS Companies will end up breaking their OSes to make them more container friendly.

Tweaking sure;after all Virtualization is way-way more than a Buzzword in Most Enterprises today.

But Breaking it ,Nope I don't think so.

Too much Coding time would be required and what would you do with all that Infrastructure that is already sunk in place to maintain the existing system?

Regards

Ashish.
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11/19/2014 | 11:30:28 AM
Re: Docker as translator/helper
Laurianne,

Absolutely fair statement to make!

Most Consumers want flexibility of the highest Degree in the Cloud.They should feel if they are unhappy with the solution they are using (maybe not today but 3 years down the line);they should be able to change easily,quickly and efficently with Minimum Fuss.

The Whole transistion process should not become an endless Circus or Jumping through Hoops business to get the Job done.

The way I look at it(from a Developers point of view);That is super-critical here.

Regards

Ashish.
Ashu001
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11/19/2014 | 11:17:21 AM
Re: Limited options for containers in the cloud today
Brian,

Eventually most Consumers will have to make a decision(standing by on the sidelines can be useful for only a while).

I personally think Amazon's solution is a Good option to work with;especially given their Scale and history of delivering Great Quality Products at Good Prices to consumers.

Regards

Ashish.
Charlie Babcock
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11/18/2014 | 1:44:38 PM
Amazon amplifiexs explanation of what EC2 Container Service can do
An Amazon Web Services spokesman issued the following clarifying comment after this column was posted: "With other container management solutions on EC2 you need to run cluster and configuration management software, manage their scaling and availability and plan for the kind of resources you will need for those.  With Amazon EC2 Container Service, you can launch as many clusters as you like at any scale without the need to run any cluster or configuration management software."
Lorna Garey
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11/17/2014 | 4:15:55 PM
Re: Limited options for containers in the cloud today
Charlie, Do you see any work being done to make server OSes more "container friendly" -- IOW, are OS makers working to tweak their software to accommodate containers, in hopes of cutting out the VM altogether?
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