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Vint Cerf Wants Your Help Re-Imagining The Internet

Vint Cerf, recognized as one of the fathers of the Internet, is using social media to generate new ideas about how the Web should evolve.
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Whoopty
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9/10/2015 | 7:19:33 AM
History
The historical aspect of the web is important. The Web Archive is a great solution and I hope that more MMOs and large scale games are stored somewhere so people can remember them for what they were. The problem is that just as physical media requires physical space, digital media can take up digital space, so someone has to pay for their storage. 

Finding that person is the important part here. We need a digital Library of Alexander. 
SaneIT
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9/10/2015 | 8:16:29 AM
The future internet
"Our modern communications tend to be very brief and rapid and don't involve thinking because we have another 100 emails to get through. The result is a lot of short, terse, not substantive communications."

 

I think what we're seeing is a more conversational internet.  We have daily conversations that are lost to time but those stories are still passed down verbally.  I think that's the direction we're headed, a less formal communication path.  I look at it in the same light as television and radio, the presentations are far less formal the delivery is much more comfortable and conversational but you still have pockets where formality and standards are strictly adhered to.  The internet will be much the same, left on for background noise and occasional checking in when something catches your attention.
TerryB
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9/10/2015 | 1:11:43 PM
Re: History
Cerf is such a brilliant guy, nice to know people like him are thinking about these issues. But part of this transcends digital. Think of drawings on cave walls or old paper documents where the language the information is in nobody speaks anymore. That seems like more of a problem than what type of digital encoding is used.

This makes me think about that recent movie where girl gets a massive dose of this drug that unlocks her brain to operate at full capacity. As she acquires all knowledge that exists, she wants to pass it on to this professor. So she morphs into some kind of biological computer and produces a USB stick containing all this knowledge. As movie ended, I couldn't help thinking I hoped she used the right USB format so he could read it.
Thomas Claburn
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9/10/2015 | 5:01:42 PM
Lost in time
In Blade Runner, Roy Batty's musing on mortality sums up the fate of our electronic conversations: "All these moments will be lost in time. Like tears in rain."

Cerf is right that we should do more to preseve our digital past. But so much will disappear anyway.
Charlie Babcock
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9/10/2015 | 6:37:21 PM
Yes, write letters (Lincoln did.)
In "The Fiery Trial," historian Eric Foner describes how Lincoln wrote letters to the American people during the trying years of the Civil War, outlining his views on the Union and what to do about the slaves freed by Union armies and those still in thrall to their Southern masters. These letters were among his main public utterances and were the source of constant newspaper editorials and tavern debates. His thinking evolved step by step in these letters as the war progressed, as did that of the Union as a whole. Who knows where we would be today if he only used email or issued Tweets.

 
David Wagner
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9/10/2015 | 7:39:03 PM
Re: Yes, write letters (Lincoln did.)
@Charlie- Lincoln's Gettysburg address was very short for a political speech of the day. Maybe Lincoln would have also been the master of Twitter. :)
David Wagner
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9/10/2015 | 7:42:41 PM
Re: Lost in time
@Tom- While i support Cerf's general plan, I'm sort of OK with it. If we leave behind too much, historians won't be able to read it all or make sense of it anyway. Letting a little slip away is natural and human and almost romantic. Frankly, I'm OK if everything i ever said on Facebook disappears. :)
David Wagner
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9/10/2015 | 7:45:35 PM
Re: The future internet
@SaneIT- You are right to a certian extent. We're not all that worried about saving a hundred years of lost phone calls. there are many things we shouldn't be worried about saving from our current time. That said, I think Cerf's comment about "accidental" preservation is very on point. We don't want to rely on just what gets randomly saved. We need to make smart choices. Technology could allow us to make those choices.
SaneIT
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9/11/2015 | 8:19:42 AM
Re: The future internet
It sounds more like Vint Cerf should be looking for internet curators then rather than shaping the "new" internet.  No matter how well planned selective data preservation is, someone is going to claim it is completely wrong, history being written by the winners and all.   I don't think we need to preserve every news story, every tiny event, etc. but we should be taking snapshots of relevant sites and trends more from a tracking than a shaping standpoint.  What I would fear is attempts to shape as they are determining what needs to be saved. 
David Wagner
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9/11/2015 | 11:56:19 AM
Re: The future internet
@SaneIT- Well, he's worried about more than the Digital Dark Ages. i think he is just hoping to open a wider dialogue on what we should and can do with this thing.
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