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FAA Rules On Drones Vs. Model Aircraft Protested
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Somedude8
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7/28/2014 | 10:12:27 AM
LoS part, okay. Commercial part, huh?
The line of sight part makes sense to me. Reduces the chance of collisions I would think.

The commercial/non commercial part makes no sense to me at all. Not sure what problem that part is trying to solve.
David F. Carr
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7/28/2014 | 10:21:11 AM
Re: LoS part, okay. Commercial part, huh?
If you're thinking commercial use of small drones / model aircraft should be unregulated, you'd have to take that up with Congress. The only lattitude FAA would have is exactly where to draw the line. I thought the hobbyist group quoted in the story made a reasonable point about one sale of one photo not being enough to qualify as a business in the eyes of the IRS, so maybe the FAA should allow some latitude there.
Thomas Claburn
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7/28/2014 | 4:48:37 PM
Re: LoS part, okay. Commercial part, huh?
I actually sympathize with the FAA. Crafting rules to cover all the possibilities is thankless and there's no way to please everyone. 
BlaseB834
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10/17/2015 | 8:26:25 AM
Re: LoS part, okay. Commercial part, huh?
Ridiculous. Common sense dictates you enforce or draft laws against the activities of concern. They as usual are making things more complicated than it needs to be.
UberGoober
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7/28/2014 | 10:12:44 AM
Thank You Big Gubmint
Everything not mandatory is forbidden.
Zman7
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7/28/2014 | 10:55:08 AM
Not sure if these people know what they're doing...
The LOS part stinks.  Many model aircraft flyers go out by themselves. I wouldn't want the requirement to have someone to tag along if I had first person view equipment.  The advances in technology will far outstrip any laws these clowns want to write today.

 

I appears to me that the gov't is trying to figure out a way to get additional tax money from drones.  If people are flying them as a hobby, then it's a hobby.  If they use them in business, then they should be treated like trucks and cars currently used as business equipment.  The FAA should simply specify what space they can fly in - period.
jries921
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7/28/2014 | 11:14:52 AM
I don't envy the FAA's task
For starters, it couldn't possibly be fun to try to apply existing statute to a brand new category of aircraft (acts of Congress tend to be horribly complex, but its the bureaucrats who get blamed for it).  Then we have the privacy concerns (imagine a drone controlled by a paparazzo), and public safety concerns (imagine a privately owned automated bomber).  And we have model aircraft hobbyists who don't want their options limited any more than they have to be.

This is definitely not a good time to be a rule writer for the FAA.

 
Paul Burnett
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7/28/2014 | 11:58:40 PM
Re: I don't envy the FAA's task
"(imagine a drone controlled by a paparazzo)" Imagine a 12-gauge shotgun...
David F. Carr
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7/29/2014 | 10:25:11 AM
Re: I don't envy the FAA's task
Drones with cameras and drones with guns, those are real issues / dangers but probably largely outside the scope of FAA regulation. There will probably be a whole separate set of regulations / laws from law enforcement to privacy to telecommunications (radio spectrum) governing unmanned aircraft, with more needed as time goes on for complications that have yet to arise.

The FAA's main charge is to make sure these things can operate safely in public airspace (which I guess might include that they're not carrying gun turrets), with some reasonable accommodation for hobbyist / noncommercial use of small unpiloted planes that fit into the traditional model aircraft niche. I think that's part of the White House's logic behind having another agency take the lead on the privacy / bandwidth issues (assuming the Politico report is correct).
David F. Carr
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7/28/2014 | 1:35:53 PM
More objections to the FAA drone / model aircraft rule
Academics have their own objections to the lines the FAA is trying to draw:

Professors object to FAA restrictions on drone use - Associated Press - POLITICO.com 
Laurianne
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7/28/2014 | 2:58:18 PM
Re: More objections to the FAA drone / model aircraft rule
The photography questions with regard to drones have just started. We will need much more privacy protection as consumers than the current laws ever envisioned us needing.
asksqn
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7/28/2014 | 5:00:14 PM
Base Regulation on Who Manufactured the RC item
Putting the regulation of drones/hobby planes under the NTIA umbrella sounds practical in theory, NTIA is, after all, an arm of the Commerce Dept.,but then again, one of the agency's stated goals is to keep phone and cable TV affordable.  Anyone who subscribes to either utility knows that the NTIA has epically failed on that count.  All that being said, and in consideration of the gnashing of teeth from both opponents as well as advocates with regard to the FAA's criteria, the only solution with regard to regs is to distinguish between manufacturers - was it a consumer product oriented company selling RC hobbyist items, or a civilian contractor manufacturing drones? 
BlaseB834
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10/17/2015 | 8:22:32 AM
Re: Base Regulation on Who Manufactured the RC item
Once again our fine government acting BIG AS USUAL. All this b.s. is not that complicated.. this is why you don't write more useless and baseless BS law. It's not that complicated people. You don't make it illegal to have a drone, you enforce the law for the activities they're doing which are illegal with the drone. Anything you can do with a drone you can do with RC airplane. The fact of the matter is there is no difference. The functionality is identical. Stop wasting everyone's time with this BS enforce the laws that are already on the books. Now go balance the budget or hire some flght traffic controllers
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2/1/2015 | 7:04:15 PM
Drones operators VS rc hobbiest
The major difference between drone operators and re hobbiest is the following. : Drone operators want to video. video is 50% the blast and thrill of the drone flight . To see awsome video during and afterwords is the sike. To do it where it could indanger outhers without being there while its flying around your naborhood at night on a pre programed flight. : The rc hobbiest to me should be in a different catigory. The serius rc hobbiest congergate in large open feilds away from people housing and industry the more space the better. On brite sunny days the rc hobbiest try risky menuvers and sometimes crash. In the middle or on the side of a big grass feild only hurts the plane an pride.


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