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Google Plans To Encrypt Android Data By Default
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SaneIT
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9/22/2014 | 7:56:55 AM
Google and privacy
"Google may find it harder to get credit for promoting privacy than Apple, because it's committed to collecting data about its users to help its advertising business -" Well, it looks like I'm not the only one casting a skeptical eye toward Google implementing encryption by default.  I guess as long as they can get the data that they want for advertising purposes they don't mind cutting everyone else off.  I can only speculate but I don't think that Google will be cutting off its own data collection by doing this.
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9/22/2014 | 12:55:19 PM
Re: Google and privacy
That's the inherent challenge in being a company that sells hardware as well as services on that hardware and also deals in data about those folks using those services on that hardware. It will always be a tough balance for Google, but adding this encryption should make a difference for privacy concerns. They'll still have access to all kinds of disclosed app usage and purchase data, just like Apple.
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9/22/2014 | 12:57:12 PM
Re: Google and privacy
Jaggibons,

Do you feel this just a Marketing Thing(in response to the Barbs thrown by Tim Cook their way recently) or is there more to it?

After all,Encryption was always available on Google Android Devices(just was never Turned on by Default).

 
jagibbons
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9/22/2014 | 1:13:14 PM
Re: Google and privacy
Probably a bit of both. Yes, privacy and data security is at the top of many people's minds with the comments from Apple and the recent very high profile data security breaches at major retailers this year. On the other side, it is just good business sense to go this route. Regardless of the reason, it will benefit many folks who won't take the time to turn on their encryption when they get their phone.
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9/23/2014 | 12:32:33 PM
Re: Google and privacy
Jaggibons,

Yes I also feel it will benefit a lot of Less Technically-Savvy folks as a matter of Fact it will hopefully make them feel atleast a little bit more Safe online!!!!

 
Dr.T
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9/22/2014 | 3:11:49 PM
Re: Google and privacy
It is less about encryption more about who has the keys to unlock it. Answer should be nobody but the users, otherwise it is unless middle tier.
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9/23/2014 | 12:37:46 PM
Re: Google and privacy
Dr T,

The Situation you are referring to here(Nobody but the Users should have Keys) is very much an Idealistic Sceanario which in todays world of Ever-Ready and All-Invasive Spying does'nt really happen.

Governments could very well mandate(maybe its hardly happening) that a Copy of those Keys will be available to Govt/Law Enforcement Agencies whenever they want it to(which is always).

If I remember correctly Some Governments forced even Blackberry(The most secure of Modern Day OSes) to hand over the Keys of their Enterprise Server if they wanted to operate in that country.

So why won't Apple/Google also fall in Line with their Requirements??

 
Dr.T
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9/24/2014 | 5:41:09 AM
Re: Google and privacy
I agree. That is why Apple plays smart, if you do not know the key you could not give.
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9/24/2014 | 12:15:12 PM
Re: Google and privacy
Dr.T,

From what I have seen and heard so far about Apple-They force you to backup all your Iphone Data to the iCloud(Yes the Same iCloud which was hacked and ended up displaying Private pictures of many Hollywood Stars like Jennifer Lawrence].

And Guess what?

The Keys for that Data in iCloud rest with Apple(not the Consumer seehttps://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/22/apple-data/)

Do you still Trust Apple?

I most certainly Don't.

Regards

Ashish.
SaneIT
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9/23/2014 | 9:20:29 AM
Re: Google and privacy
It is good for business and I commend Google for paying enough attention that they recognize privacy is a big issue right now.  The average user will see this, feel good that Google is doing something and won't think much of it unless they are pressed by someone with a competitor's phone.  We heard a lot about Apple's walled garden when iOS first launched, I think Google is seeing the value there now.
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9/23/2014 | 9:27:06 AM
Re: Google and privacy
On the flip side, I read a post on another site today about how default encryption still doesn't protect anything on the device if the device isn't password/pin/fingerprint/etc. protected and the user doesn't treat that phone like they would their wallet. Encryption is a great tool for privacy and security, but it can easily be rendered useless if the user is acting carelessly with the device.
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9/22/2014 | 12:55:34 PM
Re: Google and privacy
SaneIT,

Very true.

They will be just making it mega-hard for anyone else to access that Data(except themselves of course).

Else the whole Business purpose behind the phone/OS is defeated.

After all,Search is their Bread and Butter Business.

IF search fails they can't do anything(or make any money).

After all,Most Android OSes are given over to OEMs for Free today.

At the end of the day it all boils down to the fact there never were a Free Lunch nor is one available today.

 

 
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9/22/2014 | 12:52:52 PM
And Google just lost its China Business...
Thomas,

Its good to see that the Two Pre-dominant Mobile OS Manufacturers are tackling this area with all Seriousness today.

I was just reading an Article in Today's Edition of Reuters;which clearly points out how thanks to China Tightening its Net Censorship Requirements further(Has a lot to do with the Massive Recession that the Chinese Economy is experiencing currently);Googles Share of Search as well as other Saas Options like Mail has declined sharply in China.

It seems ever since Google decided to Encrypt all Web Searches by Default,The Chinese are Happily Blocking access to Google China Servers (for Mainland Chinese) which are now directed to Hong Kong.

It seems they even blocked access to Google Drive and Google Play Services.

They(The Chinese) want to be in full control over their Internet which is why they won't permit any kind of Encryption which they can't break themselves.

Its an interesting situation to be in today(for Google).

Do you Bend down and submit the Will of the Mighty Communist Party ?

Or,do you just up sticks and exit the market entirely?

I see something very similar happening with Android Phones as well in China-They will mandate that they all get built in with some sort of HomeGrown Encryption over which they have full control.

Google Android can just kiss access to this Huge Market Goodbye if they don't comply.

 

 
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9/22/2014 | 3:14:08 PM
Re: And Google just lost its China Business...
Their best bet is still to give the keys to the users. Chinese government will have to adapt sooner or later.
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9/23/2014 | 11:00:34 AM
Re: And Google just lost its China Business...
Not sure that it will be much of an adaptation by governments. It may get Google and Apple out of the middle, but governments will just fall back on the old tried and true rubber hose hacking.
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9/23/2014 | 1:08:29 PM
Re: And Google just lost its China Business...
Some Guy,

I loved your assertion-Rubber Hose Hacking!

LOL!!!

Yup,When everything else fails(for  a Government just Spy on everyone and everything).

The Default mode of Operation today,Most Unfortunately.

 
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9/23/2014 | 12:48:40 PM
Re: And Google just lost its China Business...
Dr T,

If you study the History of Chinese Censorhip of the Internet you realize there is no way(as long as the Communist Party is controlling the Reins of Power in China) is that they will adjust to changing Reality.

Its always the Technology Providers which have to bend to their rules(not the other way around).

 
Dr.T
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9/22/2014 | 3:09:13 PM
Apple difference
I would like to congratulate Apple leasing this. Google may have been working on it but they were not able to make news about it. It took Apple again to make a difference. At the sand time these companies should not be knowing anything about our data, we as a users own it and they have no reason to know about it they should be encrypting data in any every platform and not knowing the key.


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