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Sony Fallout: The Terrorists Win Our Networks
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richalt
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12/29/2014 | 5:27:21 PM
theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
I think we have to be honest that theater owners are not fearing North Korea.  Rather they fear their own next door, long time patron, getting startled by something which happens in the theater, then suing the theater, the projector manufacturer, and the popcorn vendor.  And the jury awards millions.

So the solution here is not courage in the face of a foreign threat.  The solution is tightening liability and tort reform laws.  Limiting jury awards to actual losses incurred would defend 1000s of theater owners effectively!

 
Broadway0474
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12/29/2014 | 9:57:01 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
richalt, I think their concern is a little bit beyond just fearing litigiousness. Should something really bad happen at their theater, they ought to be liable for any security lapses. But they would also be risking business shutdown, either because the authorities would need to shut down their theaters for weeks to investigate or because consumers wouldn't return to the theater after the event out of even greater fear.
Ashu001
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12/30/2014 | 12:33:10 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Broadway,

I don't know if you are tracking the Latest Box office numbers but all this Publicity has translated into ENORMOUS HYPE/PUBLICITY for the Interview and the Movie is well on its way to becoming a super-duper hit!

I won't be surprised to hear that Sony made a HUGE Profit on this venture.

All's well that Ends well?

Broadway0474
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12/31/2014 | 8:38:02 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
It may be getting big dollars in the box office despite its limited (and postponed) release, but perhaps that's more about Americans behaving "patriotically" and sticking it to an enemy of the state any way possible, From reviews, it appears the movie is at worst mediocre, at best a stoners' cult classic to be.
Ashu001
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12/31/2014 | 8:57:03 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Broadway,

Do you really-really Believe it was the Koreans behind the hack?

All the Evidence available clearly points to an Insider job(Disgruntled Employee) insteadwww.politico.com/story/2014/12/fbi-briefed-on-alternate-sony-hack-theory-113866.html

I have worked with the Security Experts profiled in the article previously(Like Bruce Schneir and Norse) ;I trust them more than the Incompetent Buffoons in the FBI.


 
progman2000
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12/31/2014 | 10:01:48 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
This is indeed an intriguing story.  I would have to give the government a little more credit than saying that the "bafoons in the FBI" are snooping this one out.  I would believe at this point our cyber intelligence would be pretty sharp.  Besides, isn't it the NSA that would be looking into this also?
Ashu001
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1/1/2015 | 6:33:04 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Progman,

You sure have more faith than I do in the Government(and various Government Agencies).

I am really fortunate and lucky to have some experience in this space so I know that the best talent in this space rarely if ever sticks with the Government(rather migrates to the Private Sector where they are compensated very well & usually have the creative freedom to pursue the kind of projects they are most fascinated with).

As far as the NSA Is concerned;Everyone knows its just into Blanket Surveillance.

They can't do much else effectively enough[See how few threats they have prevented or trends they have predicted accurately enough for reference].

 
Ashu001
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1/1/2015 | 6:33:10 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Progman,

You sure have more faith than I do in the Government(and various Government Agencies).

I am really fortunate and lucky to have some experience in this space so I know that the best talent in this space rarely if ever sticks with the Government(rather migrates to the Private Sector where they are compensated very well & usually have the creative freedom to pursue the kind of projects they are most fascinated with).

As far as the NSA Is concerned;Everyone knows its just into Blanket Surveillance.

They can't do much else effectively enough[See how few threats they have prevented or trends they have predicted accurately enough for reference].

 
batye
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1/2/2015 | 2:21:26 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@progman2000 interesting observation... it like saying our taxes at work... but if we gonna see results... but what if...
Broadway0474
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12/31/2014 | 10:35:42 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
It certainly could be an insider hack. Companies ought to focus most of their cyber security efforts internally --- to prevent this type of malicious behavior, as well as to prevent idiotic behavior (like employees who reply to phishing scams).
Ashu001
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1/1/2015 | 6:11:01 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Broadway,

Its good to see that you are atleast open to the possibility that this maybe the case[As Usual the Government has goofed up].

Companies need to spruce up their insider policies aggressively today.I still can't figure out why they give so much leeway to Insiders (especially someone who is not a part of the Permanent Staff).

Sure you need to take care (as well as give them the Tools to do their Job well) but don't give them blanket access to everything!

Also,have active Logs in place to monitor -Who does what and where.

 
SaneIT
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1/2/2015 | 7:26:10 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@Broadway, I think part of the reason the theaters were OK pulling the movie is that they knew this wasn't an Oscar winner in the first place.  They knew it would be a so-so movie and while it would get some bodies in the door it wasn't a movie that people were clamoring for.  The theaters were not going to put themselves at risk for a goofy buddy comedy.
batye
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1/2/2015 | 2:19:09 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@SaneIT, yes and no... to each his own

 I trust we are free in USA/Canada and have right to free expression... 

I trust we have a right if we decide to see the Movie freely... with out any threats or... for me communism is same like a racism and in my books racism is a disability (like mental defect) I do not judge people with mental problems...
but in my opinion NK leaders need to be helped by mental health professionals...

Myself from what I read about movie, I think I would not like it much... but it should be my right to have a choice to see it or not... 
Broadway0474
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1/3/2015 | 11:04:30 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Batye, you do have the right to watch any movie you want. And you could have here --- this movie was offered on streaming long before theaters picked it back up. But theater owners have the right to carry whatever movie they want.
batye
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1/4/2015 | 10:24:20 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
yes, thank you, but other contries shall not get involve in this process... it should be free choice... How I see it...
SaneIT
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1/5/2015 | 7:20:44 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@batye, I'm not really worried about NK or its leaders I'm more worried about people with mental instabilities getting ideas from hearing about this on the nightly news.  Even if NK somehow had agents in the US that were willing to die for a cause I doubt a goofy movie would be the best use for them.  This is how terrorism works though, you don't have to do anything you just have to make people afraid enough that they do what you say.
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1/5/2015 | 8:26:45 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@SaneIT - I trust you are right... as sometimes even very small ideas create big problem on the global scale... it all remind me of how World War 1 started... also NK do not have to drop it agents in USA... they could hire mercenaries... to create poroblems... like Putin did in Ukraine... sad reality... sad... sad...
mak63
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1/6/2015 | 5:23:10 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@Ashu001

I won't be surprised to hear that Sony made a HUGE Profit on this venture.


The movie made a lot of publicity'hype indeed, but it didn't translate to big numbers on the box office. At least, not yet. I read that it made 5 million so far. It had a limited release though.
SaneIT
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1/6/2015 | 7:22:17 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
I had a moment or two where I thought that maybe Sony was milking the attack to hype the movie.  It was never going to be a must see movie so the attacks may have done the movie some good.  People who would have just rolled their eyes at a movie about killing Kim Jong-Un now had a reason to see what the big deal was.
Ashu001
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1/6/2015 | 12:32:06 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
SaneIT,

Guess what?

The Hype worked.

It has become Sony's Highest Selling Online Movie[They have earned over $20 million via Online Sales of The Interview] and also was Google Play's Top Selling Movie of the Year.

I say they surely succeeded with what they started out to do.

Have'nt they?

 
SaneIT
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1/7/2015 | 7:38:16 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
It sure has had an impact.  I've heard that they have an international audience for the movie as well.  I doubt that the movie would have had such wide distribution without the hype.  I guess when life gives you lemons you make lemonade, right?
batye
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2/3/2015 | 11:20:59 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@SaneIT good point, this days you could never have a bad publicity... and hype do attract people...
Ashu001
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1/6/2015 | 12:28:52 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
mak63,

This Information in from Wikipidea-

 


The Interview opened to a limited release in the United States on December 25, 2014 across 331 theaters and earned over $1 million on its opening day. Variety called the opening gross "an impressive launch for a title playing in only about 300 independent theaters in the U.S."It went on to earn over $1.8 million in its opening weekend, and as of January 5, 2015 its total box office gross was $5.0 million.

In four days, The Interview earned over $15 million through online rentals and purchases, becoming Sony Pictures' highest-grossing online release,The Interview is also the top-selling Google Play/YouTube movie of 2014.

 

Not just that the Tremendous Hype around the Movie[It was the highest shared movie on Torrents as well];shows the tremendous Curiousty factor around the Movie;which eventually will translate into Ticket Sales.


This movie is going to be a winner all the way to the Bank for Sony.

 
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1/7/2015 | 12:13:13 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Ashu001 This movie is going to be a winner all the way to the Bank for Sony.

I have to agree with you 100%. USA Today just reported: 'The Interview' gets the job done: $31M in sales.
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2/3/2015 | 11:22:48 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
@ mak63, interesting to know... I think some producers will be using this way to advertise they movies...

 
SaneIT
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12/31/2014 | 7:22:18 AM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Agreed, I don't think theater owners were afraid of the North Korean army descending on their building, but when a seed is planted it opens the door for all kinds of mentally unstable people to do dumb things.  Even if it's someone carrying a gun into the theater to be the vigilante hero in case the N. Koreans attack.  I think the biggest problem here is that it seems like everything was put out for public consumption and thus the attackers were getting exactly what they wanted.
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12/30/2014 | 12:34:35 PM
Re: theaters fear North Korea, or their own patrons?
Richalt,

Good points!

I could'nt agree more.

Tort Reform is way overdue in America today.

I am hoping it is taken on as a Priority by the New Administration coming in after Obama leaves the White House.

 


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