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No, AI Won’t Kill Us All
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tzubair
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2/25/2015 | 2:24:43 PM
Re: Wishful Thinking
"But in longer run, I don't think it is out of realm of "analyzing data" that a computer might conclude something would work better with humans out of the loop.  And that something might be existence."

@TerryB: I think the fact that a computer can become so smart that it starts "thinking" that humans should be taken out can really exist in science fiction. I don't think this is anywhere close to being a reality. Not at least something that any human should be afraid of.
ChrisMurphy
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2/25/2015 | 2:04:36 PM
Re: I am human hear me roar
Interesting counter view from Sam Altman, expressing his concern on this blog here: http://blog.samaltman.com/machine-intelligence-part-1

Two points jumped out to me: 

"We also have a bad habit of changing the definition of machine intelligence when a program gets really good to claim that the problem wasn't really that hard in the first place (chess, Jeopardy, self-driving cars, etc.).  This makes it seems like we aren't making any progress towards it." 

And:

"But it's very possible that creativity and what we think of us as human intelligence are just an emergent property of a small number of algorithms operating with a lot of compute power."
Stratustician
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2/25/2015 | 1:50:17 PM
Re: I am human hear me roar
For me, my fear is that if we create an entity that hooks up to the Internet, what are the possible ramifications if it gets into industrial computer systems.  I'm thinking more CLU from Tron here, would it be possible for an AI who is created to make decisions about systems (such as an AI system that is dedicated to reacting proactively to manage internal IT systems for critical infrastructure) to reach out and decide that it can make beneficial changes to systems where it honestly shouldn't even connect to.

I guess we could call it AI sprawl.  We're not there, but theoretically, is there a risk there of AI slipping into interconnected systems and hijacking them?
DR WILL
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2/25/2015 | 9:38:22 AM
Re: Wishful Thinking
It is possible that consciousness is an emergent property that occurs with the proper (or more advanced) programming of the substrate (be it flesh or silicon). Most parts of our brain are not conscious. Some parts are due to several forms of memory that are linked and replayed in parallel with anticipation and predictive algorithms that keep our past available, with working memory providing an apparent "present", and frontal lobe scenarios looking into the future. Out of all this arises over time, with with modifications, our identity. It takes yrs for an infant to achieve this using a 100 billion neurons. Theoretically, it should be possible to do it in silicon.

The biggest question is what "modalities" will the computer have? Will it see color, hear sound, feel pain. feel sad, etc?

W. D. Niemi, PhD

 

 
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2/25/2015 | 9:27:30 AM
Re: I am human hear me roar
The problem is not that computers with AI will wreak their evil will, it is that the humans directing them can (and have) used it to amplify their feeble human powers.   Computers are amplifiers of human intention -- for good or for  ill
SachinEE
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2/25/2015 | 12:24:30 AM
Re: I am human hear me roar
@vnewman2: Nice take on the complaining masses. There aren't any happy endings while dealing with computers which fail at times we don't expect it too (yes, BlueScreen Of Death I am talking to you too). But I'm just glad it isn't intelligent enough to replace us.
SachinEE
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2/24/2015 | 11:52:00 PM
Re: From where will computers get their paranoia?
@charlie: Technologists often dream about a day where independent AI would be able to work side by side with humans without attempting to replace them because lets face it, AIs would become way more powerful in the next 50 years and it is not long before a self learning AI would be developed and it can learn through experiences. An AI as advanced as the human brain cannot be made until a hundred years, but after that is accomplished, I think there would be a lot of flexibility between humans and AI.
SachinEE
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2/24/2015 | 11:46:13 PM
Re: I am human hear me roar
@broadway: I agree. I read in a blog that a person was arguing that the employees who lost their jobs can learn how to control and manage the automation systems. What he/she didn't realize is that it would create unnecessary competition and wasting of resources. Also it would take ten times lesser people to manage the automation systems than the actual labourer count. So the equation remains unbalanced.
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2/24/2015 | 11:24:15 PM
Re: I am human hear me roar
@Pedro, I can't tell you the number of research reports I've seen in the past year about job market trends stating the one major trend beind that automation is taking jobs. Whether that automation is based on robots or some other form of computing, the threat of people losing jobs is real. We won't ALL be out of jobs. The side effect appears that this trend creates more higher-end jobs for the educated, but these additions in no way make up for the losses at the other end of the job spectrum.
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2/24/2015 | 9:32:17 PM
Re: I am human hear me roar
@ vnewman2. I agree. If computers were as smart as technologies have indicated, we will all be out of jobs.  I agree that this fear is overblown.   I really believe that technologists should focus on problems which are nearby, not hypothetical problems, some of these include youth unemployment, increasing healthcare cost and stagnant salaries. If our country have youth with not hope for the future and nothing nothing, I take the AI robots any time

 
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