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David Wagner
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7/23/2015 | 2:38:27 PM
Re: How did they impede it?
@Vnewman2- Yeah, I'm a bit skeptical about how easy it was to hijack the Jeep. But the one key difference here is that unlike a Jeep where you can't control the steering, if you could hack a drone, you could actually fly it because it steers by signal.
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David Wagner,
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7/23/2015 | 2:17:06 PM
Re: Actually, it makes sense
@jries921- Well, then one questions why drones need to be mentioned specifically. I think the reason is that they are outside the fire. For instance, if you smask a window to shoot water into a building that makes total sense to protect the firefighter. If you start blow up the house next to the one on fire so you can get a better angle on the fire, that's not reasonable.

So, the issue to me is are they taking care of these drones in a safe and effective manner, not their immunity. 

I don't think any of us disagree with the notion that saving lives and property are they priorities. It is about HOW that matters to me.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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7/23/2015 | 2:14:00 PM
Re: How did they impede it?
@vnewman2- I think training is one way to put it. It might be an ettituquette thing, too. Remember when smartphones were new and people would go to dinner and ignore each other while on the phone? Eventually most (though you still see it) people adopted some rules about how to treat a phone call or text in front of live people. To me the social boundaries of drones just haven't been established yet.
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7/23/2015 | 2:11:57 PM
Re: How did they impede it?
@vnewman2- Well, that's what they tried to do. But according to firefighters, they were never able to find the owners or the drones. They kept making announcements asking them to leave. Either the drone owners got the video they wanted and flew home or they heard the announcements and eventually complied. 
David Wagner
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7/23/2015 | 12:49:09 PM
Re: How did they impede it?
@SaneIT- I think it had to do with the helicopters and not the firetrucks on the ground. But I also think the firefighters might be a little vague on purpose. Let's face it. They don't like them. They don't want them there even if they aren't in the way. They just don't want the distraction or the potential for recording their actions. And the safety issue is real but perhaps not the only issue.
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7/23/2015 | 12:46:33 PM
Re: How did they impede it?
@whoopty- They were hindering it by flying in the space. With large grass fires (3500 acres in this case) they use helicopters and airplanes to dump fire retardant chemicals and water on the fire. If a helicopter hits one of those it puts the crew in danger. Also, if the water or the chemcials hit the drone, it puts pople below in danger. 

And, for now, with no law in place, destroying one of those drones might put the fire company at risk of lawsuits or whatever. 

It mostly has to do with not wanting to crash a fire aircraft though.
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David Wagner,
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7/22/2015 | 11:52:10 PM
Re: Shooting down the drones
@angelfuego- Aren't you worried about the safety of others from the drones being disabled?


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