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Susan Fourtané
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9/3/2015 | 10:07:30 AM
Drones and wildfires
Curt, how can that increase in the number of drone-related accidents in fire zones be prevented, or how could it decrease? -Susan
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 10:47:33 AM
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@Susan, organizations in and out of government are looking for ways to "geo-fence" drones away from active fires or to be able to take control of drones if they're in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is one of those times when technology has run ahead of policy and the ultimate answer is for responsible drone owners to bring peer pressure on everyone to follow the rules and keep the skies safe for everyone. I suspect, though, that we'll see some remarkable over-reaction before we see reasonable solutions.
Li Tan
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9/3/2015 | 11:40:36 AM
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I think using data-driven approach to fight wildfire is the right approach. However, some over-reactions and calibrations are needed before really viable solution is reached.
Susan Fourtané
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9/3/2015 | 12:43:36 PM
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Curt, most likely you are right. Speaking of keeping the skies safe for everyone, there is a sign in Regent's Park, in London, that says that flying drones there is not allowed. I suspect the same rule applies to the rest of the Royal Gardens. I took a picture of the sign because it was so interesting at the same time I was wondering how many people would fly a drone there, and for what reason. Maybe one of those drone cameras, perhaps. -Susan
Brian.Dean
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9/3/2015 | 6:44:49 PM
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@Curt, I see a lot of potential for drones to set back fires, data collection and releasing fire retardant. However, the use cases will only work if it is coordinated and the tools are in the hands of the firefighters. It will require some time before technology progresses and budgets are allocated to gain these benefits until then, I think anti-drone technology will need to be utilized.

I wonder if land drones can be safely utilized for search and rescue during a disaster.  
Charlie Babcock
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9/3/2015 | 7:50:56 PM
The HotShots still work hard to earn their grub
Curtis, Nice show of the kind of information used in wild fire fighting today. It's a huge assist to the people responsible for utilizing the limited resources. Gathering the thermal information from the air is vital because many wild fire fronts obscure their speed, movement and direction under thick smoke. Knowledge in depth of the weather is another huge assist. But there's still a lot of grunt work on the ground by HotShots and other front line fire fighters. Hats off to them.
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 9:29:03 PM
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@Susan, I can see folks with quad-copters searching out any open space in an urban area as big as London. I have to imagine there's a lot of interest in flying over Hyde Park, too -- and a lot of official interest in making sure it doesn't happen.
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 9:42:45 PM
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@Brian, I didn't hear anyone talking about using drones to gather data. There are two planes that do that, but only two for the whole U.S. I strongly suspect that this time next year we'll be looking at some drones run by NWS or USFWS. From the "civilian" side, it's amazing how far following the advice "Don't be a jerk" would take us.
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 9:49:32 PM
Re: The HotShots still work hard to earn their grub
Thanks, @Charlie. And you're right: There's so much that isn't visible from the ground due to smoke and ash. Being able to see where combustion is actually happening is vital. One of the things that didn't make it into the piece was one of my sources talking about the accuracy of the thermal images -- they can distinguish between burning wood and hot rocks that have been in the middle of a fire.

I have nothing but admiration for all the wilderness fire fighters. We've seen once again that even with all our technology their work can be deadly but a lot of people are working hard to keep them as safe (and effective) as possible.
Brian.Dean
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9/4/2015 | 11:55:39 PM
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@Curt. You are absolutely correct. Civilians should gain as much safety information as possible before deploying drones for productivity or fun. At the same time, drone manufactures should follow a high level of standardization and create documentation (a brochure and a link, etc.) to provide information about the dos and don'ts of drone ownership.
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