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Ariella
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2/18/2016 | 9:32:42 AM
Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
When this hit the news yesterday, I saw it shared by connections both in favor of Apple's position and opposed to it. The techy ones tend to favor it. As I told one of them, he should have no problem as he is generally a Libertarian in his outlook. But I wonder how people who regard Rand's views as the ultimate evil square that with their beloved company paraphrasing the type of argument one would hear from John Galt, particularly in the line, "And ultimately, we fear that this demand would undermine the very freedoms and liberty our government is meant to protect."
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2/18/2016 | 12:05:17 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
This was the hot topic in the office yesterday, and everyone is eagered to see how it plays out.

Ariella, as you mention I think most techies are on Apple's side, where we fully understanding the implications that the governments request can have if pursued (or forced to do)

When this story was shown yesterday on the news, I was reminded by Blackberry on how they dealt with a similar incident in Pakistan. What's curious is that the Government has used Blackberry purely because of it's security features, so it's strange that they are no asking to try and breach it.

I think the outcome will be more on a better awareness of how mobile communications should be viewed in general, and what limitations there exists. I think Apple's stand has a lot of weight, since even though the reason for the govermens request is understanble, as mentioned, the outcome is just will have a far more negative reach than just this scenario.
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2/18/2016 | 12:35:33 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@mejac Yes, Apple is arguing from the point of view of precedent. The question is: what move will the FBI make now? Will it  be content to let it go,  or will it bring a lot more pressure on the company? 
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2/18/2016 | 2:42:27 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@Ariella,

I was discussing this with a former police officer, and he thinks there's a 51% change this will go all the way to the supreme court.

I think the government will try to pressure apple, and Apple's lawyers will stand there ground.... I don't think this will settle anytime soon either, since he explained that these types of disputes are extensive, since it's a matter of both interpretation and protecting customers privacy (which in itself its'a delicate matter)
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2/18/2016 | 2:54:36 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@mejac tht could be quite something as far as precedent goes.
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2/18/2016 | 3:47:08 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
Correct me if I'm wrong though, and I haven't been able to adequately research, but didn't Apple willingly comply with these types of orders several times in the past for much lesser offenses? 
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2/18/2016 | 4:00:28 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@vnewman2 Apple says it has cooperated in terms of providing  any data they have. But what the FBI wants in this case is a way to get at what's on the phone via new Apple software that would prevent the data wipe from happening when oo many wrong passwords are entered. 
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2/18/2016 | 4:08:05 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
Right, but Tim Cook is arguing the action based on principle, "And ultimately, we fear that this demand would undermine the very freedoms and liberty our government is meant to protect."  I mean, is this really the case you want to take THAT kind of position on?
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2/18/2016 | 4:11:24 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@vnewman He means the principle of protecting the integrity of the privacy set up for the iPhone user. He fears that setting up this opening for this phone can lead to any phone being cracked. He certainly does not mean to say that he doesn't believe in helping the government out but that he draws the line at this.
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2/18/2016 | 4:31:48 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
I'm going to take the high road on this and comment as the Madison Avenue - The Onion - Mad Magazine would:

 

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