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Apple Fights FBI Over Disabling Security In San Bernadino Case
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2/18/2016 | 5:14:13 PM
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@jastroff - Insert "Laughing so hard I'm crying emoticon" - or shall I say "Crying with tears of joy" emoticon? :)
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2/18/2016 | 4:59:41 PM
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@Ariella - I totally understand that.  But then why have they complied in the past to similar requests that end up resulting in basically the same end (in one case it was a meth dealer's phone).  Isn't that still invading privacy?  Does it matter where the information comes from?  If they hand it over from the cloud how is that really different from the phone itself?  The end result I mean...
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2/18/2016 | 4:31:48 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
I'm going to take the high road on this and comment as the Madison Avenue - The Onion - Mad Magazine would:

 

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2/18/2016 | 4:11:24 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@vnewman He means the principle of protecting the integrity of the privacy set up for the iPhone user. He fears that setting up this opening for this phone can lead to any phone being cracked. He certainly does not mean to say that he doesn't believe in helping the government out but that he draws the line at this.
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2/18/2016 | 4:08:05 PM
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Right, but Tim Cook is arguing the action based on principle, "And ultimately, we fear that this demand would undermine the very freedoms and liberty our government is meant to protect."  I mean, is this really the case you want to take THAT kind of position on?
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2/18/2016 | 4:00:28 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
@vnewman2 Apple says it has cooperated in terms of providing  any data they have. But what the FBI wants in this case is a way to get at what's on the phone via new Apple software that would prevent the data wipe from happening when oo many wrong passwords are entered. 
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2/18/2016 | 3:47:08 PM
Re: Apple takes a page out of Ayn Rand's books
Correct me if I'm wrong though, and I haven't been able to adequately research, but didn't Apple willingly comply with these types of orders several times in the past for much lesser offenses? 
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2/18/2016 | 2:54:36 PM
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@mejac tht could be quite something as far as precedent goes.
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2/18/2016 | 2:42:27 PM
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@Ariella,

I was discussing this with a former police officer, and he thinks there's a 51% change this will go all the way to the supreme court.

I think the government will try to pressure apple, and Apple's lawyers will stand there ground.... I don't think this will settle anytime soon either, since he explained that these types of disputes are extensive, since it's a matter of both interpretation and protecting customers privacy (which in itself its'a delicate matter)
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2/18/2016 | 12:35:33 PM
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@mejac Yes, Apple is arguing from the point of view of precedent. The question is: what move will the FBI make now? Will it  be content to let it go,  or will it bring a lot more pressure on the company? 
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