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Psychologue324
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Psychologue324,
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4/6/2016 | 2:41:20 PM
Linux > Windows
"Linux can now choose Windows 10" 


I remember the time when there was a war between Windows and Linux. My childhood..
SaneIT
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4/6/2016 | 10:02:07 AM
Re: W-O-W, wow, wow
The MS Build presentations really aren't for your base line users so the announcement that Ubuntu apps will run natively in a Win 10's own shell was intended for the geeks to digest.  What worries me most though are the script kiddies have a new attack vector into Windows, and if MS doesn't keep up on patching two systems now there could be some real messes.  Old *nix exploits could cripple new Windows boxes and MS will be to blame from all sides.

 

As for SP, we added a compatibility view list to our GPO to address this. It cut the calls down dramatically.  If you're working with people outside of your corporate network, then I'm afraid it's not so easy.

 
TerryB
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4/5/2016 | 10:04:47 AM
Re: W-O-W, wow, wow
@SaneIT, your use case not what I meant. I was talking about an enterprise wide deployment of Win 10 computers using apps that needed UNIX to run on. No question the UNIX world has a ton of IT tools that are very useful.

I was not planning on messing with SP 2013 for awhile, just got to it last summer. But after seeing how poorly it works with IE11, I'm going to take hard look at SP 2016 when hits general release this year. It's not just fringe stuff that doesn't work. I have views built on our ISO Doc Lib on each department and shopfloor workgroup Home page to just show docs for that area. That view does not work without Compat Mode, which makes no sense at all. It shows the title of the web part, the content area is entirely blank until Compat Mode. That's pitiful.
SaneIT
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4/5/2016 | 8:32:58 AM
Re: W-O-W, wow, wow
@TerryB,

I'm laughing at the SharePoint issue because I run into this as well.  You would think that the framework that MS is building their portal presence on for Office would work best with their browser...  As for running Win 10 and Unix/Linux side by side, I guess I'm one of those crazy people.  From time to time I need a small utility to do a specialized task.  Cygwin has been the answer for that and I think MS recognizes that for every person who installs Cygwin and limps through running a *nix application inside Windows there are at least 3 who spin up a *nix distro and add to someone else's OS market share. Making it easier keeps people inside the Windows OS family. 

 
Michelle
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4/4/2016 | 2:39:32 PM
Re: W-O-W, wow, wow
@Terry good points all around. Rarely leave Chrome to use IE these days. I don't think folks will be buying Win 10 for the sole purpose of running UNIX apps. I think this is a good will gesture toward devs. The option is available if you want to use it...
TerryB
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4/4/2016 | 12:38:23 PM
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@Michelle, if anything IE is getting even more irritating. When you can't run Sharepoint 2013, the current version available, without being in IE11 Compat Mode, something is seriously wrong. Other than the new Extjs (HTML5) apps I'm writing, nothing seems to work in IE11 without Compat Mode. And I'm talking legacy on Win 7, not the Edge browser in Win 10.

I question the sanity of people buying Win 10 computers to run UNIX apps. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. How do you justify having support for two client o/s on one device?

Now, I have seen this approach for quite awhile now on the IBM i5 server we use. Since people were not porting apps to run on the i5os, IBM as long run both a JVM and UNIX shell on top of i5os so apps could run from those realms. But hard to believe Windows as reached that point. What's next, a native port of os/x? Android?
Michelle
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Michelle,
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4/3/2016 | 12:34:20 AM
W-O-W, wow, wow
I remember those awful years when IE was the bane of all web development. It was awful and time-consuming to make things look good enough on IE.
"In a relatively short period of time (a handful of years) Microsoft has gone from an official posture that included a Web browser that was only semi-compatible with the rest of the world to its current reliance on the cloud and integration of open source software into the very heart of Windows 10."

I think this announcement will do a lot for Windows 10 upgrades. I've been getting notifications for a long time now and haven't wanted to upgrade. I have Win 7 and 8 on machines at home. Maybe it's time to make the move.


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