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8/3/2016 | 1:01:38 PM
Re: IBM has been getting More Lean
Selling hardware like PC's is much different today than in the old days when IBM sold mainframes and early PC's which were built like junior mainframes! Like TV's and phone's, hardware is disposable and obsolete quickly. Unless you are in the US Government... IBM was smart to recognize the profitability of the IT service industry even though i miss OS/2.
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7/12/2016 | 1:41:03 PM
Re: IBM has been getting More Lean
True, when they lost the PC game, at least they had the sense to get out while the getting was good.
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7/11/2016 | 4:04:56 PM
Re: IBM has been getting More Lean
They've also gone from making computers, operating systems and software to more of a services/consulting type of company. It is much different from the days of the microchannel PC and OS/2!
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7/11/2016 | 4:02:59 PM
Re: Sad
Unfortunately nobody is safe anymore. From what i have seen over the years you are less safe in large companies like IBM because they tend to cast a wide net when doing reduction in forces. If anything you are probably safer in a small company where you know the bosses.
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7/11/2016 | 3:58:13 PM
Re: Strange description of layoffs...
I worked for a very large company in the late 1980's and they had a voluntary layoff. It was almost like a buyout program aimed at getting rid of the workers who had been there since the 1940's. It was extremely generous with pension topoffs, salary continuation based on service and free health insurance for life. While I did not qualify for that (was way too young), I wish i saved the literature because it is almost unbelievable that a program that generous was offered once upon a time. Today you would be lucky to get 4 weeks severence for 20 years of service. And COBRA.
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7/11/2016 | 11:57:14 AM
Re: Strange description of layoffs...
You bring up a great point - if you live in the US, then you probably haven't heard much about voluntary layoffs because they aren't as common as the "involuntary" ones.  It is quite the underutilized strategy - you would think a company who needs to downsize or reorganize would want to get rid of the people who don't actually want to be there and would be willing to part ways.  But not so. 
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7/7/2016 | 11:07:57 PM
Strange description of layoffs...
I learned something new today.  I had never heard of layoffs that weren't "forced".  

Voluntary layoffs do sound more friendly but in the case of a company attempting to "pivot", they would likely be ineffective.  Then again, if the unemployment payment system of the Nederlands is anything like Finland maybe not entirely unwelcome.
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7/7/2016 | 10:03:22 AM
IBM has been getting More Lean
IBM has been getting more lean for years - losing about 100,000 since 2001. And even more before that. IW has commented that IBM can't shrink it's way to revenue, which is true. But they have gone from a company of white shirts and blue ties and offices to many people working offsite and dressing as they like pushing different lines of business and services into the marketplace. And so it continues until they find the right balance, or get bought by Amazon (just kidding).
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7/7/2016 | 7:42:22 AM
Sad
I always feel bad for people caught up in these layoffs. You would imagine working for such a big company would give you a lot of job security, great benefits etc. But when they do these monstrous layoffs of thousands of people, it's got to be hard not to be caught up in them.


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