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JasonJ043
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8/27/2013 | 9:29:12 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
I don't work for MS. I've just been using Windows 8 and Server 2012 as my main computers for my company for about a year now. If it is so difficult to use, how come my generation (millennials) can pick it up in under half an hour? There are some quirks, but it is not nearly as bad as people claim. I do things fast with 8 than I ever did with 7. And no, secretaries won't always reach to touch the monitor. In Windows 8, touch is a compliment not a replacement. I know, it's hard to understand this until you use a laptop or desktop with touch full-time. But when you do it becomes obvious, some things are easier or faster with touch.

And for a long time Apple's gui was viewed as a useless hopelessly expensive toy. Sound familiar? There was quite an argument originally about people complaining about having to buy new hardware, the mouse.
Faye Kane, homeless brain
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8/22/2013 | 8:25:36 AM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
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Yes, really.

The mainframe console was a huge improvement over patch cables and voltmeters, and the GUI was a huge improvement over consoles.

New stuff is supposed to be BETTER than the old stuff. It's supposed to make you say COO-well, like Apple's new stuff!

8 is garbage. Unusable. Worthless! You think secretaries will put up with raising their arm up to a screen when a small mouse movement used to do the same thing? You think anyone wants to operate the complexities of a PC with no menus? 8 is a joke that's not funny, and nobody's laughing. It will go down for centuries as Ballmer's Last Mistake.

As for YOU:

"now we have to adapt to this. I don't see the issue aside from laziness."

...identifies you as a sleazy marketing guy in a Redmond cubicle. You think real people say that about difficult-to use, kludgy software, "You're just lazy"?

But that's the kind of thing MS says to its customers. They still think they can bully and bullish it themselves into our IT budget and suck it dry like a parasite.

You think that kind of obvious, duplicitous desperation is going to convince anyone to give you their money?

Forget it, marketing man!

Beat it! Go get a real job before Captain Ballmer drags your whole mickey mouse outfit down to the bottom with the rest of the rusty, broken junk.

-faye
Faye Kane, homeless brain
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8/22/2013 | 8:06:09 AM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Right on, Asok! You said it all.
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8/19/2013 | 9:07:08 AM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Hmmmm....The "Mattel/Fischer-Price Graphical User interface" would certainly be a good description of Windows 8.
JasonJ043
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8/7/2013 | 5:18:09 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Really? We had to adapt to console interfaces, then we had to adapt to GUIs, and now we have to adapt to this. I don't see the issue aside from laziness.
Mark532010
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8/7/2013 | 3:41:00 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
David, that is precisely the problem. Microsoft has aimed Win8 directly at them and their usage patterns. How much time are they spending popping back and forth between windows of data trying to correlate them? How often are they attempting to access data on a mapped drive?
I think we all can adapt to it. You said you had trouble but I assume you can get around in it ok now. Our complaints are that we shouldn't have to "adapt" to it, the computer is supposed to make our lives easier, not the other way around.
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8/7/2013 | 2:17:46 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
It is a luck for MS competitors.
David F. Carr
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8/6/2013 | 9:56:32 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
I will say my kids seem to have adapted to Windows 8 on their new laptops with few complaints. Maybe their brains are less fossilized than mine (I had trouble with the new UI)
JasonJ043
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8/6/2013 | 8:35:42 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
Say what you must, but that is all that the board cares about and they are the only ones who can fire Balmer.
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8/5/2013 | 11:27:33 PM
re: Windows 8 And Einstein's Definition Of Insanity
PEOPLE?
"People" don't buy phones. People buy access to their wireless providers' services through devices offered by the providers. When is the last time you heard of an Enterprise buying grey market unlocked phones then shop for a service provider?
PRICE?
The cost of a "$699" iPhone is $70 in parts cost plus the 2 cents an hour they pay Chinese to build it. Assume Samsung (clone of iPhone per court cases) costs are same. Android is FREE and Windows Phone 8 is like $40/device (more stupidly, Windows Phone 6.5 was $25/device). Android also requires cheaper less sophisticated electronics to run. Microsoft should be giving away Windows Phone operating system for free (especially since unlike Android, Win Phone has no HAL.
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