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Re: Apple...
You may want to read this:
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices
This is what I am basing my post on. The actual upgrade was not forced, but if you had your phone plugged in and connected to WiFi (say, overnight) the next morning you had 3 GB less storage space that you could not get back. At that point, it seems like a waste of space to NOT upgrade.
Maybe you did not have your phone connected to WiFi at night, such as my Father-In-Law. He is still rocking iOS6 because he doesn't want to connect his company phone to his home WiFi, and it will likely stay that way for a while.
However, this did happen to a number of people, and some of them were not terribly happy.
http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices
This is what I am basing my post on. The actual upgrade was not forced, but if you had your phone plugged in and connected to WiFi (say, overnight) the next morning you had 3 GB less storage space that you could not get back. At that point, it seems like a waste of space to NOT upgrade.
Maybe you did not have your phone connected to WiFi at night, such as my Father-In-Law. He is still rocking iOS6 because he doesn't want to connect his company phone to his home WiFi, and it will likely stay that way for a while.
However, this did happen to a number of people, and some of them were not terribly happy.
Re: Apple...
You're not making any sense, I have a number of iOS devices and not one was FORCED to upgrade to the next OS. I got a message that said an upgrade was available and after choosing not to, that was that. Nothing loaded or sat on my device.
When I was ready to upgrade, I went to the Settings and had to then DL the iOS 7 file. When the file was DLed and ready I then had to choose to install it.
When I was ready to upgrade, I went to the Settings and had to then DL the iOS 7 file. When the file was DLed and ready I then had to choose to install it.
Re: Congratulations!
Criminally ignorant? Dewey Beats Truman? Glad you're not prone to sensationalizing, either, UberGoober!
Congratulations!
This is the stupidest, least informed headline I've seen this week. "Dewey beats Truman" pales in comparison. That at least could have happened when they had to go to press, but comparing adoption rates between the two indicates a criminially ignorant headline writer, or one who cares more about sensationalizing instead of informing, which borders very closely on lying.
Apple...
This DEFINITELY has nothing to do with the fact that Apple pushed down iOS7 forcibly, whether users wanted it or not. Sure, they didn't HAVE to install it, but if it's taking up room that I can't get back, I may as well install it, right?
I called this a few months ago, because Apple always proudly states the amount of adoption its new OS gets. If you force people to upgrade, there will be artificially boosted numbers. The number I would be more interested in is the percentage of people who chose to install it freely, knowing full well what it was going to do. The user reviews for iOS7 on Cnet are abysmal.
http://reviews.cnet.com/operating-systems/apple-ios-7/4852-3671_7-35781767.html
Granted, 99 reviews is not a good cross section, but I know a bunch of people who upgraded and dislike many things about iOS7.
I called this a few months ago, because Apple always proudly states the amount of adoption its new OS gets. If you force people to upgrade, there will be artificially boosted numbers. The number I would be more interested in is the percentage of people who chose to install it freely, knowing full well what it was going to do. The user reviews for iOS7 on Cnet are abysmal.
http://reviews.cnet.com/operating-systems/apple-ios-7/4852-3671_7-35781767.html
Granted, 99 reviews is not a good cross section, but I know a bunch of people who upgraded and dislike many things about iOS7.
Re: Android—always behind.
1. Nexus is not losing support in just one year. In a matter of a few weeks I managed to get my 4.4 update on my Nexus 4. Not to mention my wife and several of my friends.
2. Yes there is an issue with updates but that is being resolved. Already many samsung phones, LG, Moto X and HTC One phones are getting the newest updates
3. Google setup this latest update to reduce the requirements on phones so older phones can operate it with much less power. A phone with a single proc and 512 RAM can run the 4.4 effeiciently can that be said for IOS 7?
4. For those that cannot get the update because of the carriers/manufacturers (not Google) Google has broken out parts to be updated through the App store known as Play. This allows them to get some of that functionality without getting the full update.
Do me a favor next time you want to go out and blast another product know what you are talking about. If Google made all the phones the adoption rate would likely be the same or higher. It would be more interesting to see what the adoption rate for Nexus 4.4 and Iphones are and compare that. The philiosiphy that Google has is choice is a good thing and yes that can cause problems in specific areas (IE carriers/manufacturers might choose not to allow the device to updated) but consumers should educate themselves on the disadvantages and the advantages and decide for themselves. That is not IOS philosiphy. Theirs is more the one choice we give you is the best for you.
2. Yes there is an issue with updates but that is being resolved. Already many samsung phones, LG, Moto X and HTC One phones are getting the newest updates
3. Google setup this latest update to reduce the requirements on phones so older phones can operate it with much less power. A phone with a single proc and 512 RAM can run the 4.4 effeiciently can that be said for IOS 7?
4. For those that cannot get the update because of the carriers/manufacturers (not Google) Google has broken out parts to be updated through the App store known as Play. This allows them to get some of that functionality without getting the full update.
Do me a favor next time you want to go out and blast another product know what you are talking about. If Google made all the phones the adoption rate would likely be the same or higher. It would be more interesting to see what the adoption rate for Nexus 4.4 and Iphones are and compare that. The philiosiphy that Google has is choice is a good thing and yes that can cause problems in specific areas (IE carriers/manufacturers might choose not to allow the device to updated) but consumers should educate themselves on the disadvantages and the advantages and decide for themselves. That is not IOS philosiphy. Theirs is more the one choice we give you is the best for you.
Android—always behind.
There are other problems. Many Android phones that are almost new, and sometimes, brand new phones can't be updated at all. And some of those phones as new models come with an outdated version of the OS out of the box.
Even Nexus models are proving to be losing support just after a year or so.
A problem is that manufacturers would prefer you to buy a new Android device than to upgrade to one you have. This is especially true since most makers are actually losing money on their phones. Even Samsung doesn't make a huge profit on each model sold. Google gave carriers the right to add their own software that then might require testing with a lot of models. That was a bad decision, but Google wanted to make Android as popular with makers and carriers as possible, so they gave them unlimited leeway to do whatever they want.
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12/25/2013 | 11:24:19 AM