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Rethink The Right To Be Forgotten
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anon5491259013
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anon5491259013,
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5/17/2014 | 2:10:13 PM
Far more important than DMCA
Corporations are the first to scream when someone uses their "intellectual property" in a manner they don't like.  Just think of this as a "Privacy Takedown Notice."
qwerpa
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qwerpa,
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5/17/2014 | 2:11:25 PM
Data Racket
The author seems to believe that your data and life belong to a multi-national corporation. Europe's court says your data and life belong to you. In the era of big data, what's to stop google from acting like a neo-mafia and extorting you for money or else they will publish their file on you? This decision is the first step to protect citizens from predatory big data miners.
PaulS681
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5/17/2014 | 2:26:34 PM
This is Crazy
This is crazy... What about all the other search engines that are out there? They are just telling Google to do this?
PaulS681
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5/17/2014 | 2:29:39 PM
Re: Data Racket
Google isn't collecting data... it is simply indexing pages to search on. Are we saying Goofle is actually publishing the info??? Thats not how I see it.
TRUTHinHistoryiseveryonesright
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TRUTHinHistoryiseveryonesright,
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5/17/2014 | 2:35:25 PM
Truth in History, it should NEVER be rewritten
"By revising history, therefore, one has the ability to specifically craft that ideological identity. Because historians are credited as people who single-mindedly pursue truth, revisionist historians capitalize on the profession's credibility and present their pseudohistory as true scholarship. By adding a measure of credibility to their work, their ideas are more readily accepted in the public mind. To an extent, historical revisionism is recognized as 'truth-seekers' finding different truths to fit the needed political, social, or ideological context." <- Historical revisionism
JeffL817
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5/17/2014 | 2:40:14 PM
Misguided Ruling at Best
Individuals who have a grievance about the misuse of personal information must fight this battle at the source of the information.  Laws should make this easier forthe public to avoid the need for costly litigation. Blocking an automated search engine from returning results from published data soiurces will lead to selective censorship and be imposssible to regulate fairly and in the best interests of the public at large.
qwerpa
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qwerpa,
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5/17/2014 | 2:51:20 PM
Re: Re: Data Racket
Well yes in Europe google is classified as a publisher I believe.

But Google does far more than serve pages. It intimately tracks how you navigate the web in order to build a profile on you to sell to advertisers. They know a lot. If there is no law restricting what they can do with that information, it can get very scary, very quickly.
Andrew Binstock
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5/17/2014 | 3:21:24 PM
Re: Data Racket
"Google isn't collecting data."

Have you never looked at a cached Web page on Google servers? In addition to caching the pages, the search engines contains the data chopped up into indexable segments that the search engine then uses to return results. Google very definitely collects data on the content it links to. 

"Are we saying Goofle is actually publishing the info?"

Yes. It's not terribly different than publishing a directory. Were hard-copy phone directories, which simply listed names and phone numbers, not published? The fact that it's links rather than phone numbers doesn't mean that the information is not published. 

 
Andrew Binstock
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5/17/2014 | 3:34:08 PM
Omitting links is not tantamount to lying
"The right to forget appears to be an obligation to lie."

I don't see any equivalence of these two. There are many, many types of information that are not available to the public and yet we don't term them as lying:

- Sealed juvenile records (as you mentioned)

- Personnel records

- Health records

- Grand jury testimony

All of these contain important information that some segment of the population might have a strong interest in knowing. The fact that we can't access that information doesn't in any way suggest lying. It's not even misleading.

We have come to accept that in these matters, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. We should always have that view of Google searches. 

 
rbrband
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5/17/2014 | 4:24:38 PM
Re: Re: Data Racket
Google is not merely a search engine anymore--it's also more than one OS (Chrome and Android)--and, so much more. (People may not have noticed recently: They complain that Microsoft is an easy hacker-target--so is Google (and likely IOS) now, too.)

Forget it!: First, I'd say to become a master of disguise: Attempt to fake your credentials and IDs. (That's easy enough--given how comically stupid and insecure they are--thanks to our national "Culture of Cheap! By the way, make the "Culture of Cheap" your best friend!)  

Desert your families--you don't need them--they don't need you!: Disappear--redo your lives--reappear! (Become a carpenter in a broken-down cabin deep in the woods, manage a nursery, a flower shop, a surf shop, or an apiary! Heck, become the next "Grizzly Adams"--help me set up my still in WNC! Herd some goats in Mexico! Make weird wooden stringed instruments and lutes--and, flutes! Walk the earth as "Caine" did in "Kung Fu!" "Use your minds creatively!" "Create your own reality!"  It's not that hard!: "Anything is possible!" Now, get right on it!
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