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World Cup Management: Data Or Intuition?
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Technocrati
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6/12/2014 | 10:48:41 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I wonder if after a certain amount of time whether players would enjoy the objectivity of a computer manager. If you know the ocmputer doesn't play favorites maybe you can accept its decisions better.


@David    That would be an interesting way to approach things.  I agree.  One would think the players would have to respect to objective, based on the numbers approach a computer manager would use because they ( the players) are surly watching these numbers themselves.

But you still have the issue of playing time for instance which ultimately effects the programming of the computer manager and it's overall effectiveness.
Technocrati
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Technocrati,
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6/12/2014 | 10:20:18 PM
Re: Cold and Heartless Data
You crack me up Rich.   And I would like to Thank you for alerting me to obviously misconfigured user rating -  Apprentice ?  Really ?   Sounds like (forced) child labor if you ask me.   Maybe the good folks at IW are playing a cruel joke that has mirrored my career to date.

You know, start at the bottom, and stay there way too long. 

Well looks like I am paying my dues again - what is the next step on the organizational ladder ?    Strategist ?    Nice I like that one.  In keeping with the theme, I'll probably hold that longer than I should as well.   Until I can reach my real goal of becoming a Ninja.   

I always wanted to be a Ninja.
PedroGonzales
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6/12/2014 | 10:02:17 PM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@ David.  I think it will makes player selection much better. If a player wants some sort of special treatment, the app can show via a record of their performance in the field that his actions aren't the correct one.  Those who want special treatment should evaluate themselves.  I do not know how one can assess the performance of the team and evaluate its individual players.
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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6/12/2014 | 11:46:54 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@SaneIT- That's probably a good compromise- an app on a tablet that makes suggestions like a bench coach. But a person to manage the personalities. Though as I say it, I wonder if after a certain amount of time whether players would enjoy the objectivity of a computer manager. If you know the ocmputer doesn't play favorites maybe you can accept its decisions better. 
SaneIT
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6/12/2014 | 7:26:42 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@Rich.  That's funny, but imagine a hive minded team with the queen sitting up in the box seats giving commands.  I could see it working, now we just have to find some players who don't mind a little infection and infestation.  On the bright side we could probably get them to play for sugar cubes.
SaneIT
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6/12/2014 | 7:19:46 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
We may not see the robot manager on the field but I wouldn't doubt that a piece of software will be running the show in the future.  Baseball managers are famous for their strategy, when a machine can assess all of the odds and pick the most advantageous action I can see managers turning to them for in game decision making.
Technocrati
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Technocrati,
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6/12/2014 | 1:30:39 AM
Cold and Heartless Data
I think Data-Driven management has it's place. But personally I would never allow it to surpress intuition.   Making decisions based on data often makes the person or company carrying this out to be  often cold and heartless - not the way I want to live my life or run a business.

A healthy balance can be found - believe it or not.
David Wagner
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6/11/2014 | 11:41:48 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@SaneIT- I doubt we'lll ever go to a robot manager simply because we'll be bigoted against them. Some team will try it, the players will rebel and play poorly. Or they will try it and win easily and they will be banned. 

I would asusme that robots could handle strategy and tactics, but I wonder if we can build a reasonable people manager that could manage when someone is tired and needs to be substituted or replaced before we just switch to all robot players.
David Wagner
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6/11/2014 | 11:34:51 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
@Rich- I think we have to worry about it MORE. We've got all this data, too much data, and we're overwhelmed by it. How do we manage it all in a way that makes good use of the data?
SaneIT
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6/11/2014 | 7:27:57 AM
Re: Do we have to worry about that anymore?
I guess it's only a matter of time before robot coaches are telling players where to be, how to improve a specific skill set that the team needs and putting together perfect teams that just stand there looking at each other because each one is perfectly matched so there is no point in playing.  We'll just have machines running millions of simulations trying to find a bug in the robot coach's planning that will let them tally up 1/10000th of a point.
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