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Aereo Vs. Broadcasters: 5 Questions For Supreme Court
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Lorna Garey
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6/23/2014 | 4:34:15 PM
Watching with interest
It's hard to see how SCOTUS agrees with the cable companies here. Though as you say, I am sure their next stop will be the FCC and congress, and they'll come armed with big bags of cash for donations.
David F. Carr
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6/23/2014 | 4:40:26 PM
Re: Watching with interest
A worry for the broadcasters is that if Aereo prevails, the cable companies might decide they can do something similar rather than paying retransmission fees as they have in the past.
Lorna Garey
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Lorna Garey,
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6/23/2014 | 5:42:23 PM
Re: Watching with interest
Oh for sure, this case has the potential to be incredibly disruptive -- think Lyft and Uber to taxicabs or AirBnB to hotels. No business model is immune.
rradina
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6/24/2014 | 8:07:48 AM
Re: Watching with interest
And...cable companies should. The only problem is they'll still charge the same fee they charge for retransmission except it will be for a remote antenna + DVR service. Needless technology to provide us with something we should get for free. It was a poor decision to let OTA broadcasters charge a fee in the first place.

SCOTUS needs to strike down the retransmission fee and save everyone a lot of hassle. Do we really need to enrich the folks who provide Aereo their tiny antenna's?  That's what will happen if SCOTUS rules Aereo legal and all the cable company's duplicate Aereo's architecture to avoid the fees.
anon1467210625
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6/23/2014 | 6:54:03 PM
Re: Watching with interest
AEREO is right but the judges will rule against them and hen cash the big fat checks they get.

No one believes the judges are fair honest or relate to the common man.There old greedy and on the take if you ask me.
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6/23/2014 | 6:37:58 PM
Change is inevitable
A ruling for Aereo will likely cause a change by the broadcasters to move their most revenue generating properties to their cable only channels. Fox will move these to FX, ABC to ESPN or ABC Family, etc. Broadcast TV will have more re-runs and infomercials. This is not a doomsday situation for the networks, the market wants mobile streaming solutions and the broadcasters that figure out how to monetize this can compete against Aereo.
Moribund_Man
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6/23/2014 | 8:02:59 PM
It's not really a tiny antenna...
These are not really tiny antennas. These are large antenna arrays, made up of a bunch of tiny antennas. If there really were a single tiny antenna, all alone you wouldn't recieve much even in the city. So, IMO it's no different than a cable co. bringing in a signal with a giant dish. So, the networks are right and Aereo isn't good for us cord-cutters because they're bringing the heat. A great explanation here: http://www.hdtvexpert.com/tag/aereo/
David F. Carr
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6/23/2014 | 9:19:53 PM
Re: It's not really a tiny antenna...
Thanks for that link, which goes much deeper into the radio frequency engineering part of the story than anything else I've seen. I wonder how much of this the justices understand.
rradina
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6/24/2014 | 8:33:45 AM
Re: It's not really a tiny antenna...
The link has merit regarding how the tech works but Aereo's primary claim is they lease the equipment to the consumer.  That means the consumer is the one that's converting the RF signal to MPEG, storing it in a "cloud" DVR and transmitting it to their device.  If it's legal for a consumer to own a Sling Box in their home, record content and stream it to their devices, what changes if the equipment isn't in their home and someone else owns it?  Would it be legal for a rural resident with poor signal strength to lease rack space at an ISP in city and duplicate the in-home Sling Box?  If so, what changes when that resident pays someone else to own it and they rent it from them?
Charlie Babcock
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6/23/2014 | 8:15:43 PM
Is Aero a content hyjacker?
Seems incredibly facile to me for Aero to argue it's only using what any consumer can use. Capturing and reselling other people's content has been historically barred by copyright law, and that's what it looks to me like what Aero is doing. The 1984 Supreme Court decision didn't anticipate this fresh gray area materializing and shouldn't be allowed to rule in this case.
rradina
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rradina,
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6/24/2014 | 9:18:29 AM
Re: Is Aero a content hyjacker?
Can I lease rack space in a city-based ISP that's near the OTA transmitters and install a Sling box?  If I'd be doing something illegal, then Aereo is illegal.  If I'm legal, why is it a grey area for someone to formalize what I can legally do and lease it to me?  Is it who owns the equipment?  Is it where the equipment is?  Is it the scale on which they do it?
stotheco
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6/25/2014 | 3:30:40 PM
Re: Is Aero a content hyjacker?
At this point, it is tempting to say that yes, Aero is definitely a content hijacker. You are right in saying that this is a gray area that it seems they are exploiting. A pretty huge gray area indeed. The outcome of this case will change the landscape of digital streaming/recording for sure.
Number 6
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6/24/2014 | 10:47:51 AM
Won't Change the Bigger Picture
Regardless of the decision, the increasingly ridiculous number of commercials will continue to drive younger viewers away. Remember when the idea of paying for cable, besides better reception, was fewer commercials on the cable-only channels? Now it's 6 minutes of show... with intrusive pop-up ads for the network's other shows... followed by 4 minutes of commercials. Maybe that's why soccer's increasing in popularity - no commercial breaks.
rradina
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6/24/2014 | 11:17:06 AM
Re: Won't Change the Bigger Picture
Yeah -- the popups are out of control and even the transparent graphics are getting larger and more obnoxious.  It's no longer just branding but brand + an always-present graphic about new episodes for an underperforming but over-hyped series.  I've even seen transparent stuff move around to capture your attention during the content!
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6/24/2014 | 11:55:54 AM
Re: Won't Change the Bigger Picture
I remember when paying for cable meant getting no commercials. Man, I am old.
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6/25/2014 | 3:26:55 PM
Re: Won't Change the Bigger Picture
I pay for cable and even the cable company inserts ads during the channel's commercial breaks! It's crazy!
Lorna Garey
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6/24/2014 | 12:06:34 PM
Re: Won't Change the Bigger Picture
Hmm, so I wonder, can you DVR (on your own hardware) the content from Aereo and skip commercials? 
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7/28/2014 | 3:28:54 AM
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