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Technocrati
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Technocrati,
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8/31/2014 | 6:20:40 PM
Microsoft: One Bad Idea After Another....

This new initiative by MS to place their OS in the Cloud is yet another bad idea from MS.  This whole notion that people prefer the Cloud is without basis in fact, but has that ever stopped MS from moving forward on something they deem necessary and " the future" ?

 

It was bad enough not providing physical media for the OS you have purchased with a new piece of hardware and now this ?   I don't know what else to say.

yalanand
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8/30/2014 | 2:43:46 PM
Cloud abilities of the new Windows
It was always going to be very interesting to know the next development of Microsoft Windows after Windows 8.1. Shifting to Windows 365 cloud for example presents businesses with important features and benefits that can give them the much needed cutting edge in the market. Office 365 presents a platform in which companies can enhance the productivity and simply do what has to be done much easier. 
pcharles09
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8/27/2014 | 12:22:17 AM
Re: If Microsoft is all in on the cloud, so is Windows
@Thomas,

More importantly, if they offer WaaS, isn't that going to eat away at MSP and hosting partner margins?
Thomas Claburn
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8/26/2014 | 7:26:39 PM
Re: If Microsoft is all in on the cloud, so is Windows
With Apple offering OS X updates for free and Google offering Chrome OS for free, I have trouble coming up with a price structure for Windows as a service. 

Has Microsoft considered Windows as a loss-leader?
Michael Endler
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8/26/2014 | 4:07:24 PM
Re: Eventually
@jagibbons: Indeed. Wzor, whose account most strongly suggests an OS that actually relies on the cloud for extended functionality, brought up this question, and said he didn't know the answer. That could imply his report is B.S., that he doesn't have deep enough Microsoft access for more details (that's seemed to have been the case before), or that Microsoft is still tinkering with this aspect.

But maybe there will be benefits that will compensate for lack of offline functionality, at least for some users. It's not clear, as I mentioned in my other post in this thread, whether this could be a mainstream product, or some kind of niche option designed for mobile enterprise users and institutions. I still think that in the short term, Microsoft's biggest Windows move will probably just be the switch to a rapid release update model-- but these job postings make me wonder if something even more unexpected might be in the offing too.

Here's my bet: If Microsoft were to release some cloud-focused version of Windows, it will have to have decent offline capability; otherwise, Microsoft will look ridiculous for having perpetuated the stereotype that Chromebooks need the Internet to be productive. It's not quite as ridiculous as Steve Ballmer saying the iPhone would achieve "zero market share," but imagine this: Microsoft says Chromebooks are garbage, and then starts pushing a version of Windows that suffers from the same alleged flaws as Chrome OS?! How would Nadella or Myerson or whoever talk his way through that?
Michael Endler
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8/26/2014 | 3:54:56 PM
Re: Eventually
@Terry: Those are the same questions I've run into whenever someone's said, "Office went cloud, so Windows will too." That Windows will be intimately tied to the cloud via services (e.g. OneDrive, Skype, etc.) is beyond serious dispute. But conceding that point isn't the same thing as expecting Windows 365. As you say, how would such a service be implemented? Via thin clients as we currently think of them? But if Microsoft's goals for the product are more mainstream, how that work? While the idea has appeal at a high level, it's hard to sort out the bits and pieces, unless Microsoft ends up introducing it as a very niche service that might grow over time.


The rumors are all over the place. Some describe it as an enterprise-oriented virtual desktop service, some describe it as a mainstream option in which something like Windows 7 Starter comes on the device, and people add extra bits - for a price - through the cloud. Some of these reports also mention subscriptions.

While I can imagine use cases for some of this, I see enormous potential for consumers to feel nickel-and-dimed if Microsoft tries to make this flavor of Windows the mainstream option. Yeah, you can draw comparisons between this device and something like an Android tablet or iPad, in which the OS is factored into the initial device price, can be augmented with cloud features, and isn't ever really a cost concern again as long as the device remains technically up-to-snuff. But those platforms walked into new markets, without legacy customers to drag along. Not so for Windows. I think the importance of this distinction has already manifested in many ways, such as users' refusal to ditch Windows XP. It's obvious that Microsoft wants to deploy Windows updates the way it deploys Azure and Office updates, in a continual stream of improvements, rather than discrete chunks. But do subscriptions follow? Does it make sense to locate part of the OS in the cloud, and part of it on the device, as WZor seems to suggest? I guess we'll see.


What I know is this: The job postings are legitimate, and do not seem to describe an existing Windows service or product. Microsoft also modified the wording of the most recent job posting as soon as the media started catching wind of it. Could be benign stuff that just happens to look suspicious because it overlaps with rumors. But it also looks like Microsoft is planning something.
TerryB
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8/26/2014 | 12:40:30 PM
Re: Eventually
And you still need some kind of hardware to access the service. Are we talking laptop thin clients here? Or would this just be about VDI from the cloud to traditional thin clients used in VDI? Hard to picture the end result on this.
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8/26/2014 | 11:53:10 AM
Re: If Microsoft is all in on the cloud, so is Windows
Perhaps Satya Nadella is the CEO with the background to sell this idea to the troops internally.
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8/26/2014 | 10:21:36 AM
Re: Eventually
Offline and low-bandwidth functionality will be the sticky issue for success in this avenue for Microsoft.
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8/26/2014 | 10:01:38 AM
Eventually
I do think we will eventually see "Windows 365" or Windows As A Service but I don't think we are there yet. I know it is hard to believe but there are still many people who are stuck using dial-up internet. I think until we see closer to 100% hi-speed internet coverage for the US and the rest of the world, cloud OSs ("Windows 365", Chrome OS) will be fringe products in niche markets.
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