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IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
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D. Henschen
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4/15/2013 | 7:50:40 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
Nice report, Chris. On the BI/Analytics category, my sense is that top-end analysts with predictive/data mining expertise are up near the manager average of $132,000 even if they're more like specialist staff than managers. Data scientists get even higher pay, but that category wasn't covered in our survey. Other sources have these types earning as much as $145,000 per year on average.
Drew Conry-Murray
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4/15/2013 | 11:53:56 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
It's distressing to see the gender wage gap persist, as well as the striking imbalance in the IT workforce. I wonder if the rise of women in high-profile positions at HP, IBM, Yahoo, Facebook, etc., will help bring more women into technology fields.

Drew Conry-Murray
Editor, Network Computing
pdoherty972
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4/16/2013 | 5:12:30 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
Do you have evidence that the "gender wage gap" isn't the result of the statistical fact that women (of the same age as a given man) are more likely to have been out of the job market (unemployed) due to childbirth? That is to say, when comparing a man age 45 and a woman age 45 both in the same job category, the woman is many times more likely to have been out of the job for months or perhaps years and therefore will command less of a salary due to less experience? Also contributing to the wage gap could be that women are less aggressive/proactive/(confrontational?) about pursuing initial wages and subsequent promotions or raises. Lending credence to my position above is the fact that women who have never had children get paid significantly more than those who have had children.

http://www.americanprogress.or...

"Mothers earn about 7 percent less per child than childless women. For women under 35 years of age, the wage gap between mothers and women without children is greater than the gap between women and men."

There are many factors at play here, and I dislike it when blanket statements make it sound as if there's some conspiracy at work when other factors could easily explain the differences observed.
442-mike
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442-mike,
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4/16/2013 | 9:26:46 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
I'd like to see where these numbers come from. I have 29 years of IT experience and am the IT department manager for a multimillion dollar business in a major metropolitan area, and I make $46k, and had to fight for that! Sorry Chris, but I think you need to get out in the trenches of real IT workers, the ones who get the jobs done, and not just rely on a few survey responses sent in by bored Google employees and fat-cat government/defense contractors.
pdoherty972
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pdoherty972,
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4/16/2013 | 9:53:04 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
Why do everyone assume any wage gap between women and men must be the result of discrimination? Part of it can certainly be that men and women pursue different careers in some cases, which skews results. Some women seem to favor stability and work-life flexibility over high pay which skews results. Some choose professions like nursing and elementary school teacher which also skews results (since women are more highly represented in those fields than men, and these are not high-paying fields). In addition women, in general, make less because statistically-speaking, they are more likely (at a given age when compared to men of the same age) to have taken months or years out of the labor force to bear and raise children. Which again lowers their average pay through no fault or conspiracy by men or corporate America. When hiring people years of experience is a major measure used to determine compensation. In addition women may be less likely to negotiate their pay in the same way a man would, potentially earning less as a result. Same with raises and promotions. And finally, as evidence that what I say above is true, women who have children, in fact, do earn less than women who did not.

www DOT americanprogress DOT org/issues/labor/news/2012/04/16/11391/the-top-10-facts-about-the-wage-gap/

"10. Mothers earn about 7 percent less per child than childless women. For women under 35 years of age, the wage gap between mothers and women without children is greater than the gap between women and men."
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4/22/2013 | 4:49:52 PM
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You are underpaid in every market in the US from my observations and every recent survey I have read. I work for just under $100K as an IT Dept for a financial institution, not the highest paying industry for mid and small size companies. I am on the west coast, which typically adds $10-20K to many other markets. In my case I feel I am adequately compensated, since we are not a 24/7 shop like many others, and are closed on weekends. The demands on this position are not equal to some other jobs I have held for not that much additional compensation. The benefits here are outstanding (401K, bonuses, company paid or sponsored social activities, training and education assistance), as are vacation and personal time off, so salary cannot be the sole criteria to judge the merits of each job or company. Mike, I think you might have been taken advantage of for your salary and years of service, and management probably thinks you won't leave, and don't realize how much your replacement might cost them.
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4/24/2013 | 6:17:54 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
I too have been in IT for over 25+ years and have worked in markets from Dallas to Atlanta to Nashville and wonder what alternate universe they poll for these salaries. I've been a Systems Admin and Analyst for many of these years and at most was paid 76k as a Territory Manager and average 50-60k a year as a System Admin. I'm certainly not seeing the averages they show in these surveys reflected in the Job Searches (CareerBuilder,etc.).

Let's get real and do some more real world polling please!
ChrisMurphy
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4/29/2013 | 8:16:41 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
It's more than 14,000 IT pros across the country. It's much more than a few responses.
ChrisMurphy
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4/29/2013 | 8:22:22 PM
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Why do you put "gender wage gap" in quotes? It's a gap, it's not made up. There can be any number of reasons, and we as a society can decide if those are acceptable reasons. But let's not pretend that a 20% gap among managers in the highest-paid field (securities and banking) isn't a gap.
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1/24/2014 | 2:02:59 PM
re: IT Salary Survey 2013: 11 Career Insights
You have worked in the lower end markets. Boston, SO Cal, Austin, NY you will se salries higher than those averages, but also maybe your company does not pay well compared to the average?
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