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AryehF891
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AryehF891,
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2/21/2014 | 4:05:02 PM
Re: There is no protect for little guys
Perhaps it is not playing the victim per se but starting with one hand tied behind our backs.   Perhaps there should be a weaker level of protection such as I have done enough to prove that the orignial idea is mine and that I created it on some date (the same basic requirements as copyrigts) and then use a document escrow service (there are several if you can spare a machine dedicated to them... something only realistic with wide spread private cloud computing) yo keep it confidential
WKash
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2/21/2014 | 2:26:10 PM
Re: There is no protect for little guys
No question, it's not easy for the little guys. But innovation doesn't start with playing the victim. I encourage you -- and every underdog -- to go and read Malcolm Gladwell's latest book, "David and Goliath" and what it says about underdogs, misfits and the art of battling giants! 

 
WKash
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WKash,
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2/21/2014 | 2:19:48 PM
Re: Crowdsourcking patents is a horrible idea
I'm with somedude8.  The idea is that patent examiners can't know all there is to know to prove the uniqueness of a design.  Crowdsourcing isn't the only answer.  More training and better tools are needed to. But it is essentially free, taps into a greater body of observers, and hopefully makes sense to fold into the process with today's technology.
hho927
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2/21/2014 | 1:36:22 PM
There is no protect for little guys
Serously!?

More protection for big guys. If I patented my invention and I don't have money, then someone can still my patent and there is nothing I can do about it because I'm not practicing my patent.
Somedude8
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2/21/2014 | 12:18:23 PM
Re: Crowdsourcking patents is a horrible idea
It sounded to me like the crowdsourcing part was only for researching prior art. Lets someone tried to patent something like, oh I don't know, 90 degree corners on electronic devices. Certainly someone in the crowdsourcing pool would say "Hey! My grandparents TV in the 50s had 90 degree corners, and here is a picture of it!". Then perhaps 90 degree corners would not get patented.

I can see this being a massive aid to the patent system, and also introducing a whole new dynamic. Apple tries to patent something, Samsung spends millions researching prior art, and maybe finds something, maybe doesn't. Still, a whole new angle to this thing.

Sounds good to me!
AryehF891
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AryehF891,
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2/21/2014 | 11:26:43 AM
Crowdsourcking patents is a horrible idea
Frankly crowdsourcing patent resource sounds like one of the dubmest ideas ever (this is from someone who has been "screwed" by the current system).     The bottom line why should I offer for *FREE* my ideas so someone else can *STEAL* them.   Yes I know someone will make the arguements that it is not really stealing because any such theif would find it impossible to sell the idea (it is aleady publicly known).

 

The only real solution is have a full proof escrow system that stamps it with proof of creation timestamp and then controls access to it.   The exact details are the subject of a patent application it self.   So sorry no details.   

 

The problems above force many small developers like my self to focus our works on things that do not require patents like my work on http://www.petitecloud.org ... our business model will helpfully enable us to pay for the legal fees to fle most of this ... 
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