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Microsoft's Windows 8 Numbers Meaningless

Microsoft says it has sold more than 40 million Windows 8 licenses, but the information is worthless in absence of key data the company won't divulge.

Microsoft this week tried to mute reports that Windows 8 is off to a slow start, disclosing that it has sold about 40 million licenses for the OS since launch. Microsoft says that's on par with the debut of the highly successful Windows 7. But without additional context, which Redmond refuses to provide, the numbers are meaningless.

The most important fact that can't be gleaned from Microsoft's "disclosure" is the extent to which Windows 8, available to consumers since Oct. 26 and to businesses since mid-August, is driving new hardware sales. Microsoft may have sold millions of Windows 8 licenses to PC makers, but if their touch-tablets, convertibles and all-in-ones are languishing on store shelves or in warehouses, that doesn't bode well for the operating system's future.

We don't know because Microsoft isn't saying. We don't know how many of the 40 million licenses come from low-cost upgrades, from volume licensing sales that kick in automatically, or from direct sales to consumers. And we don't know how many of the 40 million licenses are sitting on systems that have yet to find a buyer.

If upgrades represent the vast majority of those licenses, that's something Microsoft could be pleased with, as it puts Windows 8 onto the desktops of millions of users. But at a cost between $15 and $40, depending on when the PC was purchased, upgrading to Windows 8 is a pretty low-risk proposition for most users. We don't know whether upgraders liked the OS, whether they kept using it, or if they later reverted to Windows 7 -- and that's a metric I'd like to see.

So why won't Microsoft provide a breakdown? What is it hiding? Its silence speaks volumes or, perhaps more accurately, low volumes.

I can clear up what has been one source of confusion about the 40 million. Reliable sources tell me it does not include copies of Windows 8 installed on Surface tablets, so at least Microsoft is not counting licenses that it, in effect, sold to itself.

It's worth noting that Microsoft deferred considerably more Windows revenue in the quarter prior to Windows 7's launch than it did for Windows 8. For the former it was $1.5 billion, for the latter about $1.2 billion.

Deferrals reflect the value of Windows presales and upgrades that Microsoft believes it will have to make good on in future quarters. An apples-to-apples comparison is difficult. Still, the deferral numbers are worth looking at in the absence of more data from Microsoft.

Regardless of whether you believe Windows 8 is off to a slow or fast start, one thing became clear this week. Microsoft plans to give the platform plenty of rope. In a previous column I suggested that the company might ultimately pull a Coke and introduce what I called "Windows Classic" if Win8 and the Metro interface don't catch on with users. Windows Classic could include all the security and manageability benefits of Windows 8, but lose Metro (also called Modern UI), which many users find confusing.

Not so fast, said Tami Reller, who was named co-chief of Microsoft's Windows unit following Steven Sinofsky's sudden and unexpected departure earlier this month. Reller said Microsoft is into Windows 8 and Metro for the long haul.

"Windows 8 represents really a generational shift of hardware, a generational shift of the operating system and apps, all together, all at once," said Reller, who spoke Tuesday at the Credit Suisse Tech Conference in Scottsdale, Ariz. The OS "was built for the future, not just any one single selling season," said Reller, whose comments may also have been meant to dampen expectations about holiday sales.

At this early stage, you wouldn't expect her to say anything else, at least not publicly. But I'm not convinced. If sales of Windows 8 tablets and laptops are tanking by this time next year, the company will have to come up with an alternative. We may yet see Windows Classic. Do you think Microsoft should stick with Windows 8 and Metro? Let me know in the comments section below.

Upgrading isn't the easy decision that Win 7 was. We take a close look at Server 2012, changes to mobility and security, and more in the new Here Comes Windows 8 issue of InformationWeek. Also in this issue: Why you should have the difficult conversations about the value of OS and PC upgrades before discussing Windows 8. (Free registration required.)

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Larry22
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Larry22,
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11/29/2012 | 2:58:57 PM
re: Microsoft's Windows 8 Numbers Meaningless
Bet you'd ask the same question at the Windows 7 launch. I'm very sure the Windows 7 numbers are basically the same structure as 8 now. Also, there were 2 weeks promotion that Microsoft were selling Windows 7 Upgrade for $49.99. And Microsoft were giving away Windows 7 Upgrade from Vista PC promotion buyers where it was $14.99 for Windows 8 Upgrade from 7 PC buyers.
Gussy2000
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11/29/2012 | 3:00:48 PM
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I have ZERO intention of buying/moving to W8. I bought a W7 laptop last September and I plan on keeping that for at least the same 10 years I had an XP machine. I tried the W8 consumer preview and hated it for all the reasons it has been criticized for. Last night, I played around on a Samsung W8 tablet and that seemed slightly better but I still preferred the Asus tablet on display next to it (the price of the Asus was easier to swallow; $399 vs $649).

If I am smart, I will buy up a copy or two of W7 for future PC purchases provided MS does not strong arm us all into using W8 by dropping support for W7.
ninjustin
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11/29/2012 | 3:57:45 PM
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Windows 8 is actually cheaper than a copy of Win 7 right now. I was going to do the same thing for my new PC at home but Ended up getting 8. Honestly it's about the same as 7 with the obvious Start Screen than a start button. Functionally you can set it up to work the same. I'm happy with 8 but I really could care less my other computers are on 7.
wht
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wht,
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11/29/2012 | 8:36:24 PM
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You are wasting your time and money. Just use Win8 and quit complaining. If you adopt it you will find out it's not a problem or that different after you learn the basics.
VasyaPupkinsan
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11/29/2012 | 3:08:12 PM
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Based on the quality of Windows App Store, the way it navigates and how applications are discoverable, I say their development is now 90% outsourced to monkeys in jungles of india.

Heil Ballmersoft, Heil Ballmer.
supreme commander of monkeys and out-monkey coding standards.
markmi300
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markmi300,
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11/29/2012 | 3:12:24 PM
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I played with Win8 over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend and could only find two "pros" with it. Fast booting and Native ISO mounting. There were too many "Cons" to mention here. Needless to say, I will continue to use Windows 7.
toothie007
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11/29/2012 | 3:16:54 PM
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So, the numbers don't fit the narrative you want to trumpet, so you dismiss the numbers. Show me an article you wrote questioning a sales number declared by Apple for example. I bet Apple numbers also include all iMacs, iPhones, and iPads etc. sitting on the shelves at Best Buy and other distributors as well. By law, they have to report those numbers for they represent sales given that Best Buy for example purchase them from Apple then sell to the public.

Grow up a little. The world is bigger than you. You do not control reality. Why does it matter to you so much whether MS succeed or fail with windows 8? Are you on the take to spread bad news?
PMcDougall
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PMcDougall,
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11/29/2012 | 3:26:51 PM
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Apple tends to disclose specific sales numbers for specific products. (And no, I'm not on the take to spread bad news. I've written lots of columns praising Windows 8 technically. It's the sales and marketing that are becoming an issue for Microsoft and partners.)
toothie007
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toothie007,
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11/29/2012 | 3:47:05 PM
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Really? Like we sold 3 million new ipads when the iPad 4 and iPad mini went on sale the first weekend? How much were iPad 4's and how much iPad minies? They never said. Were they hiding anything? Possible!
S. Kyle Davis
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11/29/2012 | 9:31:01 PM
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Yes, but Paul, you talk about the current sales reporting as if it's different than Windows 7. That's my issue. Apple reports specific numbers, but then they don't have OEM partners. They don't make money when an item is shipped to the store. They only make money when it is in the hands of the consumer. Microsoft, on the other hand, can count these shipments as sales, because it is revenue. Of course, it's not an honest look at true sales, but then that's a long-standing practice, not a new methodology.
NPCO
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11/29/2012 | 4:06:02 PM
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"So, the numbers don't fit the narrative you want to trumpet"

Not exactly. There have been numerous reports out of retail channels that Windows 8 is off to a slow start and then Microsoft comes along with a number that even the most optimistic person would find surprising... yet refuses to break down that number into a form that would definitively show that it truly is selling well.

If Windows 8 has truly been selling that well, and it's in Microsoft's every interest that it is, there's absolutely no reason for them not to clarify their 40 million number to demonstrate this. One has no choice but to be somewhat suspicious when they refuse such a clarification.
Don108
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11/29/2012 | 7:32:41 PM
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Be aware there are allegations that Microsoft is paying shills to go on forums and counter any negative publicity. I hope toothie007 and his overlords feel he has earned his salary
toothie007
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toothie007,
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11/29/2012 | 9:00:32 PM
re: Microsoft's Windows 8 Numbers Meaningless
Yes, the salary I earn at the University I lecture. Now what do you do for a living? I will be happy to show you up if I can figure a way to do so without giving too much away. Not everyone lives in their mother's basement. Have some darn respect.
toothie007
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11/29/2012 | 9:03:17 PM
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By the way, just to rub it in a little. Today, I lectured about heteroskedasticity in my Applied Regression class, and about Perfect Competition in my other two classes. Now what did you do today?
jododo
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11/29/2012 | 10:22:02 PM
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You forgot to mention the check you received for helping Microsoft :)
toothie007
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11/30/2012 | 6:01:22 AM
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Inform me. In what way am I helping MS? Put your brilliance on display. I am helping them because I happen to have a different opinion than yours? I am not telling you what to think. What makes you think you have the authority to control what others think? No one is allowed not share a different opinion than yours? Are you the Fox News type?
Frenchynh
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11/29/2012 | 3:32:02 PM
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I tried Win8 on my friends computer and after that experience have no thought of leaving Win7 after that experience
aflavia
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11/29/2012 | 3:38:01 PM
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Then the question will be Gǣwhat are the real benefits of moving to something pretty similar to W7?Gǥ; is not that everything else goes bad with W8, itGs probably that Metro is the THING for really moving on (looking forward). In other hand, why not having a Classic taste? In the Enterprise, for example, itGs not clear whether or not the Apps will bring immediately value; we can turn down those features but having a lighter version can also be a nice choice. Consumer should be open for options!
Greg Bishop
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11/29/2012 | 3:51:59 PM
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Windows is for BUSINESS. 8 is unusable garbage. Save your money. That's the only way to get MS to pull their thumbs out.
MyW0r1d
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MyW0r1d,
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11/29/2012 | 4:39:46 PM
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Reading through the I used it for a day, I used it for a weekend, I used it for an hour on a borrowed machine, I tried it for a few minutes in the store, only one thing comes to mind - I'll have fries with that Big Mac and please if you can't get it to me in 5 minutes tell me know so I can go to the next drive through.
JCUXDDDB
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11/29/2012 | 6:42:08 PM
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I was just thinking the same thing...

Ohhh I played with an entirely new UI for 5 WHOLE minutes and wha wha wha (because putting it in all caps really proves how important this decision of yours is). And then comment on how I didn't leave XP for 10 years... yeah...

If you don't like, no one cares - stop whining about it unless you're going to actually contribute something useful.

I moved over to it and sure there are a few things that I really don't like; Metro included but only when I need to have a lot of things open at once. But unlike the whiners, I actually looked at the benefits and improvements aside from a few things that annoyed me - you know, became and educated consumer rather than a petulant child.
Hackworth
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12/3/2012 | 5:06:14 AM
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If you like it, no one cares - stop whining about it unless you're going to actually contribute something useful. (See what I did there? Others are allowed to have opinions, too.)

Seriously, Windows 8 has better built-in security, native ISO mounting, and a bit faster booting time. Sadly, the interface is an abortion that ruins the rest of it.
Xach
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11/29/2012 | 6:17:14 PM
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I did buy windows 8. Its great new and fun. Music app works well I like it a lot.

My fathers friends who smoked marijuana used to tell me "Don't knock it til you tried it". I did not try marijuana. However, I will say that with windows 8 "Don't knock it til you tried it".
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11/29/2012 | 6:25:32 PM
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Number of Windows 8 licenses my company owns: 75
Number of Windows 8 licenses we have used, or will use in the next year: 0

There's a lot more like me in the 40 million.
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11/29/2012 | 7:08:01 PM
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I asked the same question in Paul's other artical on this...and I would like Paul to answer it.

I fail to see how 40 million copies over 60 days can be considered a failure. That's over 665,000 copies A DAY. What would you (Paul specifically, but every nay-sayer in general) count as a success; 50 million, 80 million, 100 million, every PC device ever made?

60 days is hardly time to count this product a sucess or a failure. Ask this again next year, after consumers had time to replace their personal systema and corporations start buying devices again after the usual 4th quarter purchasing freezes.

Please, stop bashing just because it's Microsoft.
PMcDougall
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11/29/2012 | 7:22:32 PM
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as I said in the column, the 40 million number is meaningless without more context.(see gfiss66's comment below). Microsoft and partners threw their full weight behind the launch but numerous analysts report weak sales (NPD today said Windows sales are down 24% since the launch). Hard to see what changes going forward.
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11/29/2012 | 7:10:32 PM
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When it really boils down, there are only 2 things wrong with Windows 8. No Start button!!!! and no ability to boot directly to the desktop and forget the stupid metro entirely. Metro is great for a small screen, but the very concept of full screening all apps defeats the very purpose of Windows. Particularly on a desktop with multiple screens, metro is stupid and useless. There certainly is no killer app that makes it even remotely desirable. That said, on a small screen/tablet or phone with a touch screen, metro is great. Just let me completely ignore it on my desktop until and unless there comes along an app that I want to use, then let me click on over to it to use it.
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11/29/2012 | 7:17:01 PM
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I think one reason sales may be low is if you look at anything besides tech news lately it is all economic doom and gloom. I would think we need to give it some time before throwing in the towel.

I won't upgrade right now because I just bought a new computer two years ago. My son will need a new one soon and, after using Win8 for about a week in Virtual Box at work, I wouldn't hesitate to buy Win8.

We haven't upgraded any of the computers at work because we don't need to yet. When that time comes I will recommend Win8 with no reservations.
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11/29/2012 | 7:26:39 PM
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You may not be able to make much about actual Windows 8 installs based on the 40 million in MS sales (not end user sales), but if the sales figure is reached the same way as Windows 7's sales numbers were reached, than it is a great indication of where Windows 8 is headed. Meaning it is being successful.
Don108
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11/29/2012 | 7:29:51 PM
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I respectfully disagree with your claim that " upgrading to Windows 8 is a pretty low-risk proposition for most users." Spending hours installing and updating applications and drivers and new conflicts is not "low-risk." Nor is the time you will spend de-installing and reinstalling Win7 and updates if you don't like or can't use Win8. Right now, upgrading is a high-risk proposition and people should consider, CAREFULLY, if they really need this upgrade or can wait until this OS is ready for primetime.
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11/29/2012 | 7:41:19 PM
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point taken, I meant low risk financially
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11/29/2012 | 7:53:08 PM
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You can use the assessment tool to check your PCs - in fact, it's built into the upgrade process and I think you don't even pay for it until you get a "go" from the check (granted that's if you're doing it all digitally - hard copy is obviously different).

I've installed it a few times now on a varying degree of machines and haven't run into any serious issues with drivers (pretty much anything Win7 compatible works on 8, it's usually just their device specific programs that need updating). The only real problem with the upgrade process that I've come across is that some software vendors validation/registration needs to be reapplied after upgrading. But really it's only been like 2 or 3.

I would imagine that some very specific devices or software may have issues, but at the same time if you're using that kind of stuff, you should already know this.

I will agree that the time involved from a business standpoint is a huge factor in sales and adaption. It does take time and IT resources to upgrade everyone and make sure all is working well. Depending on the size of your business, that could be anywhere from weeks to even years in man-hours and you've just got to eat the cost. And as someone mentioned before the only thing in the news now is gloom and doom of the economy, so I imagine that makes people even more hesitant.
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11/29/2012 | 9:22:13 PM
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Here's an idea if you're going to upgrade from Windows 7 to 8:

1) Simply make a System Image backup of Win7. If you upgrade and don't like Win8, restore the Win7 System Image.

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2) Buy a new hard drive. Create a Win7 System image, restore it to the new drive, and then upgrade to Win 8 from there. That way you have a disk refresh and your original Win7 boot disk if you want to fall back.
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11/29/2012 | 8:38:55 PM
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What is truly "meaningless" are the endless string of articles by Information Week and ZDNet about Windows 8 being this or that, bad or worse. It's missinformation by supposedly tech journalists. Your publications are not worth the bandwidth wasted to view them. Half the time you are complaining about RT not the version of Windows that tech professionals will use. Forget complaining about the consumer version, it is not what we use now or in the past.
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11/30/2012 | 4:51:50 AM
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I believe Windows 8 has serious usability issues, which can be corrected if they pay attention to the experts who have pointed out these problems. It's far from a mature OS, but they should stick with it until they get it right. The biggest mistake is trying to be a jack of all trades. Tablet PCs failed because they did exactly what Microsoft is doing now with the Surface. If they don't rethink their strategy, Windows 8 could become the next Zune, and take the whole company down with it.
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11/30/2012 | 6:55:28 PM
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We recently upgraded several of our business computers to 27" Lenovo Ideacentre all in one. The hardware is absolutley beautiful. Running windows 8 on this machine is an incredible experience. Windows 8 is very smooth and powerful and boots up in seconds. Working with a combination of mouse, keyboard and touchscreen makes our work extremely efficient and actually fun.
We have tried the Microsoft Surface to replace our laptops and iPads. The Surface is also a joy to use and a well built and beautiful piece of hardware. It is great that we can run two programs side by side on the screen at the same time. We will replace all our iPads with the Surface Pro when it arrives in January. With the Surface Pro, we will not only be able to replace our iPads with a more powerful device, but we will be able to replace our laptops with it as well. If the Surface Pro does not have cellular, however, we will have to keep a few iPads around.
Windows 8 with touch screen hardware has been the best upgrade we ever did. I am looking forward to replace my desktop at home with the new Lenovo and I will be replacing my home laptop with a Surface Pro.
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12/3/2012 | 4:56:43 AM
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Forcing a smartphone interface on all computers, especially on a system such as desktop or laptop/notebook that one would consider to be a primary system or a work-related production machine, is patently absurd.

Not everyone who uses a computing device is a "consumer" of content. Some of us actually work and produce. I don't need or want a glitzy, tacky interface that looks like two dozen carnival barkers yelling at me.

And put the damned Start button back where it belongs! Remember, the desktop paradigm that has evolved over the past 18 years has had staying power BECAUSE IT WORKS and it makes sense. Surely someone at Microsoft must understand that, as one pundit said, Windows is called Windows because it has windows--that's what I want!

For secondary devices such as tablets and phones, Metro may be fine and I wish Microsoft success in that market, but for the love of everything sensible, don't force the silly toy interface on desktop/laptop users. It's a distraction at best and an abomination at worst.

viraldmin
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1/11/2013 | 2:33:27 AM
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A silly toy? And you claim to actually be productive? Are you out of your mind?

And to say a cloud computing OS adds to these toys? I think you are vastly confused and believe phones, tablets, and other such computing devices are just handheld gaming councils.

I live and breath the computing world. Explain to me, how do you drive down the road while editing your spreadsheets that your boss needs before you arive at work? Are you pulling over on the side of the road and opening up your laptop?

Me, I am opening my handheld device and using voice mode to edit my documents as I am driving. Can't imagine being really PRODUCTIVE without it.

Just because you don't know how to be productive with touch and voice computing, doesn't mean the rest of us don't. Being able to finally touch apps on my desktop vs point and clicking with a mouse within and of itself is instant time saver. In the amount of time it takes a windows 7 user to move the mouse from the bottom of the screen to the top, I can have touched and opened 5 different apps. Guess thats less productive to.

And sense we are talking about cloud computing, can you point me in the direction of an operating system other than windows 8 that has built in cloud integration... not just cloud based apps?

For the love of the only thing that is sensible - stop trying to argue that integration is less productive. Thats clearly an absurd thing to say. Thats like saying making PC's was stupid because mainframes could do more so who needed a PC, it was just a toy. THANK THE HEAVENS people were not that crazy back in the day.
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12/31/2012 | 2:25:45 PM
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I found a petty decent (cheap but powerful) laptop. It was only available with Win 8, but I bought it anyway (figuring IT might change over soon and I might as well bite the bullet). OMG it is just pain awlful! I'm giving serious consideration to wiping the thing and learning Linux instead. If I'm going to have to put that much learning into a new system, why not one that is essentially free?
Besides, I can retire, so I don't really have to learn Win 8.
viraldmin
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1/11/2013 | 2:03:52 AM
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Seriously do people think that they have a choice? Do people think that microsoft is going to change the same practices and stategies that have always worked for them?

First of all people using windows 7 based PC's, have no option except to upgrade. To say "oh lets revert back to windows 7 and force them to create a classic theme" are dilusional at best. Microsoft doesn't care what your opinion is. If you are going to try to force their hand by not using windows 8 you are going to be in for a big shock (and I am surprized you are that ignorant of the past 20 years).

Microsoft doesn't give you choices. Go ahead try to switch back to windows 7 and see if it lasts. When Microsoft IE 11 comes out and only works on windows 8, and when the new microsoft office comes out to only work on windows 8, and when they stop support of windows 7, you will see it was never their hand that was forced, but rather yours.

The truth is you can stick with windows 7 just like another commenter stuck with windows XP. But as I am sure that person can attest, they were a bit more than frustrated when things like IE 10 would not work on their system. You have a choice, you can use old out dated no longer supported OS's , or you can realize that computers are a short term investment that you must upgrade every year in order to stay current with technology.

I wonder how many people are still walking around with a first generation iphone.... likely but a small handful.... and those didn't exist until 2007....

Get with the times. Windows 8 and its integrated cloud computing, are the wave of the future.
viraldmin
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1/11/2013 | 2:44:22 AM
re: Microsoft's Windows 8 Numbers Meaningless
One final piece of perspective that more accurately show NUMBERS for windows 8.

Exctly 48 hours after windows 8 was released, 2.3% of all windows based internet traffic was from windows 8. When you take into account that AppleGs Mac OS X Mountain Lion received 3.2% of OS X Web usage after just 48 hours of its release, this is AMAZING news for Microsoft.

Now whereas it appears apples numbers were better thats not hardly the case when you take into account that the percentage of internet users using microsoft products was VASTLY larger than that of Mac, that means 2.3% is actually a MUCH larger number of people that that of Apples 3.2%.

Do these numbers make things a little more clear. 2.3% of all windows users, were using windows 8 within 48 hours. THATS REAL NUMBERS.
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