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JohnD985
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2/25/2014 | 5:12:05 AM
Re: How does a $250 Windows 8 laptop sound? Or a $200 2-in-1?
Subscription is not the way to go.

I'd much rather pay for the software I use.

There are many free or cheap alternatives to Office these days, that Office has become irrelevant.
rradina
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rradina,
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2/24/2014 | 9:20:06 PM
Re: How does a $250 Windows 8 laptop sound? Or a $200 2-in-1?
Don't forget malware.  Sadly, it's still a huge problem for the Windows space.  Even with all of the code signing and confirmation prompts, one wrong download and you'll have a spyware/adware problem requiring the the device to be wiped and reloaded.

Even with nearly 30 years of IT experience under my belt, it's often difficult for me to determine which "download" button I should click to get the software I want.  Most links lead to "download managers" or browser "toolbars" that are infested with malware, that don't uninstall themselves and even when you find something that will remove them, are you ever really sure?
rradina
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rradina,
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2/24/2014 | 9:07:28 PM
Re: How does a $250 Windows 8 laptop sound? Or a $200 2-in-1?
Try an Office 365 Home Subscription.  $10month and you can install it on up to 5 desktop devices and 5 mobile devices.

I have three boys and they all have the latest Office.
ChrisMurphy
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2/24/2014 | 8:08:09 PM
Re: How does a $250 Windows 8 laptop sound? Or a $200 2-in-1?
I would be very interested in that kind of laptop for my middle school students. But part of the story here also is Office. My kids prefer Office apps, but they don't have it on their laptop because of the cost, and they also use Google Apps because they're so easy to share. They don't love Google Apps, but they're getting very used to them.  
Michael Endler
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2/24/2014 | 7:43:59 PM
How does a $250 Windows 8 laptop sound? Or a $200 2-in-1?
Chromebooks don't generally offer the nicest hardware experience, but they've become popular because they balance functionality and cost. Microsoft didn't confirm this licensing deal at Mobile World Congress, but it forecast its intention to pursue cheaper price points. Would a $200 or $250 non-touch Windows 8.1 laptop that boots to the desktop be equally attractive? As Microsoft likes to point out, Windows can do more than Chrome. If Windows beat Chrome on functionality, matches Chrome on price, and is close on user-friendliness, shouldn't the scales tip more fully in Microsoft's favor?

And what about the cheap tablets that Microsoft promised at MWC? In my experience, low-cost tablets become pretty unsatisfying if OEMs skimp too much on components.

 
Michael Endler
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2/24/2014 | 7:38:25 PM
Crap or not crap?
I think the fact that most comments here are of the "crap" or "not crap" variety demonstrates how polarizing Windows 8 is.

The divisiveness surprises me a little, to be honest. Sure, it made sense at first, but I expected it to diminish after Windows 8.1-- not because 8.1 is amazing or anything, but because it made the OS functional enough for two distinct groups of users. As anyone who's read my editorials about 2-in-1 devices knows, I think Microsoft's convergence play will cater to niches for the immediate future-- so I'm not surprised that Windows tablet sales are still a bit soft. But I am surprised that desktop users have been so unimpressed by Windows 8.1.

When Windows 8 initially launched, I thought it offered an okay tablet UI that, thanks to Microsoft's strong arm tactics, significantly detracted from the desktop. When Windows 8.1 arrived, I thought it would silence some of this discontent. No, there's still not a Start Menu, but in less than five minutes, you can enable boot-to-desktop, disable hot corners, and otherwise banish most signs of the Modern UI and its touch controls. In essence, you can turn Windows 8.1 into a faster, more stable version of Windows 7 (minus the Start Menu). Even so, less than 40% of combined Windows 8/8.1 users are running the update (according to Net Applications), which doesn't suggest desktop users are rushing to upgrade.

As for the upcoming update to Win 8.1-- sounds pretty reasonable to me. It makes the OS friendlier to people with non-touch devices but doesn't retreat from the Modern UI on touch hardware-- not a bad way to go, considering the position in which Microsoft found itself heading into the update's development.

But Windows 8.1 hasn't caused much of a stir-- so will this update achieve more? In some ways, 2015's rumored Windows 9 sounds a lot like what Windows 8 should have been originally. But will this spring's update be enough to sustain things in the meantime? With Windows XP losing support just as this Windows 8.1 update (and allegedly cheaper devices) are set to debut, maybe Microsoft's new OS can finally make more than an incremental market share gain.
bttlk
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bttlk,
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2/24/2014 | 5:41:29 PM
Re: CRAP IS CRAP, EVEN IF IT'S FREE
JohnD895, you are the one who has lost it.  Quit your bitchin.  8.1 is a great OS, easy to learn, and you don't need touch on a desktop or laptop. 
bttlk
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bttlk,
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2/24/2014 | 5:39:28 PM
Grow up and stop complaining about Windows 8.1
You don't need Windows 9, Windows 8.1 is fine as is, with more changes coming soon to pacify you whiners.
bttlk
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bttlk,
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2/24/2014 | 5:36:23 PM
Re: CRAP IS CRAP, EVEN IF IT'S FREE
My plan also.  I am using a Windows 8 phone (Nokia Lumia 928) now, and love it. The integration with the phone, desktop, laptop, and soon an 8-9"Windows tablet is so efficient.  Saying goodby to Android phone and tablet. Recently retired XP and Vista PC's, both of which were still running perfectly, but lacked 8.1 features I use. 
bttlk
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bttlk,
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2/24/2014 | 5:26:43 PM
Re: CRAP IS CRAP, EVEN IF IT'S FREE
Wow, show your ignorance with a post like yours Gary_EL.  XP is obsolete, dead, not supportable due to security concerns.  Wake up and get off of XP now if you are connected to the Internet.  Sorry that you didn't make the party, but many of us did and love 8.1 on the desktop or laptop, with a KB and mouse.  You do not need touch, and can ignore tthe tiles if you want and just boot to desktop.  Microsoft has not given up, quite the opposite.
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