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Oracle Lets Customers Shift Money To Cloud Apps
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User Rank: Apprentice
5/5/2014 | 2:21:02 PM
Oracle spin not enough to get customers to stay
This is a desperate attempt at preventing customers defecting from Oracle's legacy products to better, true SaaS products such as Salesforce and Workday. Most customers don't trust Oracle's cloud offering for various reasons, one  being that Oracle itself  didn't believe in the cloud for years.  Just because you have a credit for unused Oracle license (by the way, a good question is "why did Oracle encourage us to buy all those products we never used?") does not mean that you will automatically want to move from bad to as bad or worse. What most Oracle customers are doing is taking a step back and saying, "hum, before we embark on an another expensive Oracle project why not look at alternatives?" And when they do, they end up selecting the competition

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Li Tan
Li Tan,
User Rank: Ninja
5/3/2014 | 11:42:42 PM
Re: The cloud builds in maintenance
The same trend continues across IT industry. Oracle's strong competitor, IBM, has announced its Social Business strategy long time ago. The strategy is encouraging the movement from on-prem OA platform to SmartCloud business. For the customer, instead of paying expensive license fee, the money should be spent on more meaningful stuff, such as cloud service - pay for what you actually use.
User Rank: Apprentice
5/2/2014 | 4:08:37 PM
Integrated Marketing Cloud
"We'd have to agree with Akeroyd that integration is king, and thank you Doug for including Teradata in your list of companies who are doing precisely that. But not just marketing applications.  Teradata has been executing on a much broader vision to integrate warehouse + analytics + marketing applications, all with the customer experience in mind.  Because as you've heard us state before, it's not just about making the technology work together, big data marketing is about the people the data represents."
User Rank: Apprentice
5/2/2014 | 8:39:48 AM
Re: The cloud builds in maintenance
The key benefit to deliver for the customer is predictability in TCO, not just the migration from one system to another.

The changing nature of business - processes, product sets, target customers etc, mean it's typically hard to forecast and budget for a system, which you need to change in order to stay aligned to the business.

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Charlie Babcock
Charlie Babcock,
User Rank: Author
5/1/2014 | 7:51:40 PM
The cloud builds in maintenance
This is actually a clever move, and I haven't viewed that many of Oracle's moves to the cloud as that clever. Instead of maintenance, pay for cloud service, where maintenance is built in.
User Rank: Author
5/1/2014 | 2:22:44 PM
Re: Details to come on dollars and options
"Oracle's Marketing Cloud integration work has only just begun, acknowledged company president Mark Hurd in a kick-off speech at Wednesday's event..." Is that music to the ears of And can Oracle compete here with that Salesforce ecosystem? Weigh in, readers.
D. Henschen
D. Henschen,
User Rank: Author
5/1/2014 | 10:02:43 AM
Details to come on dollars and options
The devil is in the details, so I have a follow-up interview planned with Rod Johnson. Presumably your on-premises app will still be supported until you have the cloud version up and running. eBusiness Suite, PeopleSoft, and JD Edwards all have HCM components, but do you have to be using on-premises HCM to shift to cloud-based HCM? Or can any on-prem support spend be shifted to cloud-based spend? Oracle's press release touted flexibility, but if there are lots of restrictions, this isn't going to get many customers to move.

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