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IT Pro Nightmare: Coffee Intake Linked To Alzheimer's
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riffy1
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riffy1,
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7/31/2015 | 10:43:42 AM
Stupid assumptions
Author of article assumed that increasing coffee drinking CAUSED alzheimer's.  Just as likely if not more so that increased coffee drinking is compensating for the beginning of alzheimer's and not causal.
StaceyE
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StaceyE,
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7/31/2015 | 11:01:39 AM
Ugh!
Well Thank goodness I cut down to a cup a day!
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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7/31/2015 | 11:12:38 AM
Re: Stupid assumptions
@riffy1- I think it is fair to say "cause" is too strong a word. But I don't think the idea that the coffee is compensating for the beginning of Alzheimer's is necessarily correct because increased drinking was linked to MCI. One would expect no effect or an increased covering from more use if it was just covering the existing effect. the fact that more leads to a noticable increase of MCI in my mind (and if I'm reading the report correctly) seems to mean there is a link to increased coffee use and MCI.
jagibbons
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jagibbons,
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7/31/2015 | 12:00:53 PM
Re: Stupid assumptions
A "link" is not necessarily causation. There can be lots of reasons behind a positive correlation between two events.
StaceyE
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StaceyE,
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7/31/2015 | 3:58:59 PM
Re: Stupid assumptions
Very good point. Link is definitely different than cause.
SunitaT0
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7/31/2015 | 2:12:17 PM
Re: Stupid assumptions
Why are all the drinks that I like are trying to kill me? Now you are going to provide a link which states "Live off a vegan diet, because you can live a hundred years!". You know how people say you eat to live? Well not me! I would rather die on a full stomach than live a hundred years eating plants.
StaceyE
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StaceyE,
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7/31/2015 | 4:00:50 PM
Re: Stupid assumptions
I'm with you Sunitato!
stevew928
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8/4/2015 | 5:07:18 AM
Re: Stupid assumptions
@SunitaT0, I think the key to most of the healthy diets is that they get rid of all the processed junk. If you're eating a vegan diet, you're going to be making a lot more of your own food and eating fresh veggies, etc. Same for Paleo, etc. And, each person's body is different... but the big ones are sleep, quantity and quality of water, good food source, and some expercise (not a lot is needed).
SunitaT0
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7/31/2015 | 2:18:40 PM
Re: Stupid assumptions
I would say more than enough of anything would get you health problems. Be it coffee or anything else.
Angelfuego
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Angelfuego,
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7/31/2015 | 6:39:30 PM
Re: Stupid assumptions
I enjoyed youe article and videos. I tend tot hink most things, including coffee, are okay when taken in moderation. Let's hope I am right. I type this as I sip my coffee!
MattDN
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8/3/2015 | 9:28:33 PM
Sleep Problems
I read recently that there's a link between poor sleep quality and Alzheimer's disease.  Perhaps increasing coffee consumption later in life is an attempt to compensate for poor sleep quality?  There are probably different types of sleep disorders, but in the case of untreated sleep apnea, especially if severe, there are many episodes during the night where blood oxygen drops.  The risk of developing sleep apnea increases with age.  I'm not a medical researcher, but it seems plausible to me that the underlying issue here is a relationship between sleep apnea and Alzheimer's.  That would make the link between coffee and Alzheimer's a correlation, not a cause.  (Disclaimer:  I have not read the study.  Maybe the authors addressed this and/or attempted to correct for this effect?  Also, I drink coffee so I'm "highly biased".)

 
stevew928
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8/4/2015 | 5:13:50 AM
Reason for the coffee probably far worse!
I'm guessing that the lack of sleep, most likely being the cause of over-consumption of coffee probably does far more damage than the coffee ever will.

Plus, if you're drinking that much coffee, and not consuming (body weight in lbs / 2 = oz) enough good water + whatever oz you drank in coffee (to compesenate for the diuretic effect), you're doing a lot of damage there too.

And, then if you've got the typical S.A.D. (diet) going, Alzheimer's is probably the least of your worries! Obesity, cancer, diabetes, etc. are going to get you way earier.
vnewman2
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8/5/2015 | 8:18:46 PM
Re: Reason for the coffee probably far worse!
I don't drink coffee anymore because I like it with milk and milk hurts my stomach.  So does soy milk.  So...I switched to espresso.  But I like the "sipping" that goes along with drinking coffee as much as the coffee itself.  So I usually order a double.  Or triple.

One day, I ordered a quadruple :) and the barista said, "Do you want to order something with that?  Some food maybe?"  Me: laughing, "No thanks."  Him: "Or how about an ER doctor?"   ROFL
stevew928
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8/5/2015 | 8:24:18 PM
Re: Reason for the coffee probably far worse!
Hehe, that's a good one. I did once think I'd killed myself with caffine when I was in my early 20s. I was working on a deadline and stayed up almost 72 hours with a lot of caffine. Actually, I probably DID almost kill myself. :(

re: milk - My little guy and wife are pretty alergic to dairy, and soy isn't really good for you (at least to have real often). Have you tried almond milk or coconut milk? We usually just make our own almond milk at home using some almond butter, dates, and water in the blender (the stuff from the store has a bunch of other junk in it).
vnewman2
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vnewman2,
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8/6/2015 | 12:39:53 PM
Re: Reason for the coffee probably far worse!
Wow!  72 hours without sleep is a really long time and I'm guessing you escaped death by a hair.  

I will do almond milk or coconut milk, but don't like the taste in my coffee...cest la vie!


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