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8/8/2016 | 5:07:08 PM
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Well said. I don't think a total ban on hand guns would ever happen nor would it solve the problem. I am for a ban on assault rifles. I don't understand why civilians should have that kind of military equipment. Amazingly the only gun ban that i think ever worked was the ban on machine guns in the 1930's. You really do not see those any more. But now things are getting worse with criminals getting their hands on body armour. It might not be long before they figure out how to weaponize drones. Laws don't work with criminals. All you can do is make it difficult for them to get these weapons and then severely punish them for their crimes. And by that i mean the death penalty. Like laws, executions will never stop hardened, determined criminals from taking chances. But it will stop them from comitting crimes again once administered.
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8/8/2016 | 5:00:31 PM
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Susan,

Totally agree. In this case it saved the lives of police officers who would have had to storm the criminal who had been trained by the military so he sort of knew how to handle such situations.
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8/8/2016 | 4:57:53 PM
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Susan,

The gun control issue is really complex because control is predicated on state and local laws-not Federal ones. So in statee with strict gun control laws like IL and NY and even stricter in NYC and Chicago, you still get a considerable amount of crimes comitted with guns. In many cases this is because a gun is purchased in a state or locality where gun control laws are lax. There are supposed to be background checks but i am not sure how these people still wind up with the guns. And now these crimes are happening with alarming frequency in Europe where gun laws are draconian. Criminals will always seem to find a way to circumvent the law. I think the problem is bigger than a debate on the Second Ammendment or more laws. I think there is some sort of cultural change that needs to take place. And not only in the US but worldwide because the problem is getting worse because terrorism is getting out of control.  
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8/8/2016 | 4:36:58 PM
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Susan,

I understand where you are coming from. For me though, I can't justify medical experiments even on barbarians like this. Don't get me wrong, I believe in the death penalty. But something about the term "medical experiments" doesn't sit right with me.
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7/21/2016 | 12:49:01 PM
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Well, I'd say Afghanistan, Mexico, South America,  Iraq and Syria. :-)  But I know what you mean. In one of the Rogue Warrior books, mostly fictional books written by an ex Navy Seal named Richard Marcinko, he states that when Britain banned handguns that violent crime went up. Not gun crime, just overall crimes classified as violent. I have no way of verifying if he is correct or not. But other countries all have violent crime, we are talking % per capita. That's what makes me wonder if culture in places like Europe and Japan is just not as prone to violence. You can kill someone with a knife or baseball bat if so inclined to do so.

As far as "people are irresponsible", that's the rub. Only a small pct of people are irresponsible, by far majority who own guns are never a problem to anyone. Take a look at the Nice tragedy. Do we now ban trucks because some moron can kill many people with them?

The difference to me is trucks have a legitmate useful purpose, handguns are made to shoot people. Period. That gun supporters are so selfish they are OK with all the bad deeds done so that they can take their gun to shooting range (only legit place to use one) or feel safer in the .00001% chance someone breaks into their house intending to hurt their family (versus just steal property) is the issue.

Would I personally support a handgun and assault weapon ban? Sure. But that's easy for me to say because I don't own a gun now or have any desire to. But based on how country split now and how politicians don't want to make 50% of voters mad, I don't see this changing in America. One thing I don't want in America is a police state, we keep sliding closer to that everyday. France is facing same problem now.
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7/21/2016 | 6:01:59 AM
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Terry, 

If people are irresponsible they shouldn't be granted rights to possess guns. What other country has the problem with guns the US has?

-Susan 
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7/14/2016 | 1:13:28 PM
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@Susan, it would be an interesting study if handguns were out of equation. I often wonder how much of that is cultural in nature. I'm also not sure how much of the crime rate actually involves guns. Much of gun crime in US is from cities like Chicago, gangs killing gangs and any poor innocent bystanders in wrong place at wrong time. The other "common" gun crimes here are dosmetic issues, where estranged husband kills wife (and maybe kids) and then kills himself. Whether that would still happen with a knife instead is a good question.

But much of the US is not crime ridden by any means. Where I live I don't even lock my door when I go to work. Most cities, even Chicago, are very safe if you avoid a few problem areas you wouldn't go to anyway. 

Like @vnewman said, and I agree, some problems are just unsolvable. I work with guys who own guns and love to go target shooting. No one would ever need to worry about these people, I have no problem with them doing that. By nature, I'm not a fan of government taking away rights because some idiot might ruin their life, so they ban it for everyone. America is big on that. Gambling is perfect example, or smoking weed. The difference with guns is it has an amendment specifically protecting it. Plus it is a HUGE industry, lots of money at risk. Heck, company I work for makes products used to make ammunition. It's grown to be our largest market segment. 

Like I said, don't see much changing over here. Stupid, deranged people aren't going to go away either. It's a bad combo. 
Susan Fourtané
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7/13/2016 | 9:45:47 PM
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TerryB, 

In a nutshell, imbalanced people killing innocent people will never stop in the US then. Have you ever wondered how other countries manage to deal with crime if common citizens don't own guns, and how those countries even have a much lower rate of crime? 

-Susan 
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7/13/2016 | 9:30:22 PM
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Technorati, 

This was going to happen any time. The technology is there and it's there to be used. If it is used with responsibility I don't see any problem. In this case, I believe it was well used.

Too many lives had been lost already in the hands of someone who didn't mind killing people for the sake of it. He had to be stopped. There was not other option that could have guaranteed no more lives would be lost in an attempt to stop him. 

The robot was not an AI. It was not a killer robot. It was a piece of machine designed and controlled by a human, not different than a gun. There is not even an ethical issue here. 

-Susan 
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7/13/2016 | 5:33:21 PM
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As far as firearms are concerned, the horse left the barn long ago.

At this point in time if guns were outlawed only Outlaws Would Have guns.

I do belive other than military,law enforcement and other authorized authorities, should NOT posess Assault weapons, that's a situation where a large anmount of carnage can occur in seconds. I know, I had that training when I served in the military.
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