Surveillance Bill Slipped Into Federal Spending Budget

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larryloeb,
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12/20/2015 | 7:23:06 PM

RE: Yeah, here we go again.

Your name intrigues me.

Where do you ge the raw materials?

[g]

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organ donors, inc.,
User Rank: Guru
12/19/2015 | 10:04:41 PM

RE: Yeah, here we go again.

... oh, and God forbid we should allow anyone to abridge anyone's right to arm themselves with ridiculously overpowered assault weapons.

I personally think that will kill more people than encryption. But that's just me...

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organ donors, inc.,
User Rank: Guru
12/19/2015 | 10:01:34 PM

Yeah, here we go again.

It has reached the point where I just automatically assume that the government is listening to me all the time.

You just have to think this way. When you send an email, talk on the phone (either cell or landline), use cloud services of any sort, navigate via GPS... any of these things that use internet or network-based services - you have to believe that there may be someone else listening.

I'm just waiting for the first test-case if they try to pass a law restricting or weakening encryption. Hoo boy. That will be interesting.

Then you'll have constitutionality tests (freedom of speech, freedom to assemble). You'll have all kinds of interesting arguments come up.

Frankly, I can't wait. Hope I'm not too old when it happens; I want to be there.

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larryloeb,
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12/19/2015 | 2:06:46 PM

Re: Unconstitutional

Gee, tell us what you really think. [g]

Mainstream mediateers aren't even mentioning this, btw. Joe Sixpack doesn't even know it's there. Just the way they want it.

It's coming down, gang. big time.

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Banacek,
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12/19/2015 | 1:59:42 PM

Unconstitutional

Basically this 'act' was converted from a cybersecurity issue and turned into the "How to bypass the restrictions now put upon us by the FREEDOM Act and other restrictions some in the government dared decide to block our ability to gather information on anyone we want". And don't to me about safety, security, or terrorism. Like we're supposed to just trust the government when they tell us "No, we need this to stop bad people!" It didn't stop Paris. Didn't stop San Bernadino. Didn't stop Colorado (or did they know about the guy in colorado, but because he wasn't muslim, they ignored it?). Didn't stop Charleston. Doesn't stop any of the violence that goes on in the USA.

Apparently if Americans kill Americans out of hatred, racism, bigotry, greed, etc., that's OK. 14,000 murdered in the US yearly, that's fine. Just as long as it doesn't involve Muslims, we don't need to worry about it.

And I just can't stand the republicans who yell and scream about the sanctity of the constitution of the United States (and how Obama is flaunting it) and yet seem to think stuff like this is perfectly OK. They pretend to be better than your average politician (you know, those democrats) but they talk out of both sides of their mouth just like everyone else in government.

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larryloeb,
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12/18/2015 | 5:41:24 PM

Re: Suveillance

If they were just worried about "criminals" they wouldn't have made it a raw surveillance bill.

They can now legally watch everything. Everything.

Time for true end-to-end encryption on everything you do.

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danielcawrey,
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12/18/2015 | 5:04:52 PM

Suveillance

I understand the need for keeping tabs on criminal activity on the internet. That problem is only growing. But I think the American people also should be concerned that there is too much snooping into the regular lives of people. It's a balance I know is tough for lawmakers, and it only takes massive media scruitny for Americans to get fed up with these types of programs.

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