Killer Robot Use In Dallas Raises Ethical Questions - InformationWeek

InformationWeek is part of the Informa Tech Division of Informa PLC

This site is operated by a business or businesses owned by Informa PLC and all copyright resides with them.Informa PLC's registered office is 5 Howick Place, London SW1P 1WG. Registered in England and Wales. Number 8860726.

IoT
IoT
Comments
Killer Robot Use In Dallas Raises Ethical Questions
Oldest First  |  Newest First  |  Threaded View
Page 1 / 4   >   >>
Technocrati
0%
100%
Technocrati,
User Rank: Ninja
7/11/2016 | 2:54:39 PM
Bomb Carrying Robots
I really dreaded learning a robot was used to deliver a bomb in the recent Dallas shootings. The police departments have basically a military arsenal to use against citizens and now we can add robots to it.

Policing is not warfare unless we make it that way, which is just what these robots will eventually do.
tjgkg
100%
0%
tjgkg,
User Rank: Ninja
7/11/2016 | 3:40:53 PM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
Police swat teams have had bomb removal robots for years. This was an improvised operation where the robot was the vehicle that delivered the bomb but the humans made the decision to detonate it. Similar to the drones. They are always under human control, they are just vehicles to get to places where human life would be at risk. The Dallas PD already lost 5 policemen to this deranged person, they had to put a stop to it quickly before even more lives would have been taken.
Susan Fourtané
50%
50%
Susan Fourtané,
User Rank: Author
7/12/2016 | 6:18:05 AM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
tjgkg, Indeed, as an improvised operation certain unique conditions had to be considered.  

The robot was mainly used as a walking weapon. Instead of a police officer carrying a gun to kill the murderer a robot carrying a bomb was used. The bomb was used because it's the only thing a robot controlled by a human can carry and drop. If the robot woud have been articulated and able to carry a gun it would have been the same.

What is the ethical question in this case? I don't see any. The murderer had already killed several police officers and other people. I understand that the ones in charge didn't want to risk losing more lives. I don't see anything questionable here.

 

-Susan  

 
Susan Fourtané
100%
0%
Susan Fourtané,
User Rank: Author
7/12/2016 | 6:32:05 AM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
Technorati, 

If the police use that military arsenal and robots well, professionally, and in the right situations there wouldn't be any problem. However, there is a problem in abusing authority against citizens, which has been the case many times. 

We also have to remember that so far robots are instruments developed and controlled by humans. In this case, it was not a robot activating the bomb but a human. 

-Susan 
tjgkg
100%
0%
tjgkg,
User Rank: Ninja
7/12/2016 | 8:06:58 AM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
Susan,

I also do not see any ethical issues in this case either. I think it was smart use of existing technology to end an already deadly situation that had the potential of getting worse. This will now be incorporated in all PD's that have these types of robots. Maybe it will make killers think twice about doing this again. I hope so.
jastroff
50%
50%
jastroff,
User Rank: Ninja
7/12/2016 | 9:40:22 AM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
Perhaps it's already too late. The War has come home.

 

But if the police can do it, so can the bad guys. Technology is an euql opportunity deployer in these cases. 

We used to be afraid someone would drop a nuclear bomb and destroy the earth. Now it's more like "should i go to the movies..."
Banacek
100%
0%
Banacek,
User Rank: Ninja
7/12/2016 | 10:52:04 AM
Killer Robot? Really?
I love the over-reaching title. This wasn't a 'killer robot'. The robot had no self-awareness or even decision making capability. The robot didn't 'decide' or 'choose' to kill. People did that. A chain of command decided the only solution was to take down the suspect. This command was given to someone running the robot. This is absolutely no different than having a police sniper shoot the suspect.

Shouldn't the bigger question be whether they should have used deadly force and not, for example, a stun grenade? For I'm sure there'll be a wrongful death lawsuit coming out of this by the family and some scheister lawyer looking to grab headlines and a payday. But I'm sure they gave him every oppurtunity to give up, which is far more than he deserved. Heck, death was better than he deserved. Too quick and painless and easy...
Banacek
100%
0%
Banacek,
User Rank: Ninja
7/12/2016 | 10:59:15 AM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
I agree that police departments have way too much military hardware. Does every (or any) police department need an armored assault vehicle (since they all seem to have one)? Sometimes its hard to tell the difference between the police and the marines. Heck, you see them at airports? Walking around with automatic weapons and body armor? And EVERYONE has a SWAT team and a police force. The Agriculutural department has one. Really? They can't call in the FBI or something, they need their own?

And it has been shown that these tools are used not because they are needed, but to justify their existence. Maybe if the police stopped walking around like they were going into combat and became more accessible and part of the community, there'd be more trust going back and forth between them and the people...
tjgkg
50%
50%
tjgkg,
User Rank: Ninja
7/12/2016 | 12:46:13 PM
Re: Killer Robot? Really?
I don't think there will be a wrongful death suit brought by the family of the killer. The parents have gone on television grieving for what their son has done. Granted there might be pressure from the BLM and Al Sharpton activists but i doubt that will get very far.

With regard to the use of deadly force, when you kill cops in cold blood like that, you are pretty much toast. And rightfully so. Had he been taken alive, there was not only graphic evidence of his guilt, but also the fact thsi was premeditated so a death sentence would have certainly followed despite pressure from the activists and probably the White House. Plus Texas actually carries out these sentences even though it might take well over a decade thanks to interminable appeals.
tjgkg
100%
0%
tjgkg,
User Rank: Ninja
7/12/2016 | 12:55:12 PM
Re: Bomb Carrying Robots
Which war has come home? This was not a terror killing, it was something caused by a deranged person. A lot of these episodes come about because of mentally deranged people seeking 15 minutes of fame and knowing now with social media and all the cameras ready to go everywhere, they will get it.

The full scale terrorists have not quite arrived here yet but will sooner rather than later if we do not eradicate them on their turf and secure our borders. There is way too much political correctness which is a byproduct of people living well in the US and not feeling the pain of the terrorists. The non existent leadership in Washington is allowing this to happen. But should terror attacks become the norm, there will be a different sentiment.

I remember growing up in the 60's and 70's where we had to "duck and cover" when a nuclear warning was issued. Thankfully only two nations had nukes back then and there was a lot more order in the world. Today everything is much more fluid, more nations have the nukes and unstable people are not afraid to use weapons of any type of destruction on innocent people.
Page 1 / 4   >   >>


State of the Cloud
State of the Cloud
Cloud has drastically changed how IT organizations consume and deploy services in the digital age. This research report will delve into public, private and hybrid cloud adoption trends, with a special focus on infrastructure as a service and its role in the enterprise. Find out the challenges organizations are experiencing, and the technologies and strategies they are using to manage and mitigate those challenges today.
Commentary
AI Regulation: Has the Time Arrived?
John Edwards, Technology Journalist & Author,  2/24/2020
News
Fighting the Coronavirus with Analytics and GIS
Jessica Davis, Senior Editor, Enterprise Apps,  2/3/2020
Slideshows
IT Careers: 10 Job Skills in High Demand This Year
Cynthia Harvey, Freelance Journalist, InformationWeek,  2/3/2020
Register for InformationWeek Newsletters
Video
Current Issue
IT Careers: Tech Drives Constant Change
Advances in information technology and management concepts mean that IT professionals must update their skill sets, even their career goals on an almost yearly basis. In this IT Trend Report, experts share advice on how IT pros can keep up with this every-changing job market. Read it today!
White Papers
Slideshows
Twitter Feed
Sponsored Live Streaming Video
Everything You've Been Told About Mobility Is Wrong
Attend this video symposium with Sean Wisdom, Global Director of Mobility Solutions, and learn about how you can harness powerful new products to mobilize your business potential.
Sponsored Video
Flash Poll