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Kristin Burnham
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12/6/2013 | 9:31:10 PM
Re: Re. Comments on Too Old For IT
@turquhart201 -- you nailed it. Young employees can groan about how older ones just "don't get it" and older ones can groan on about how young ones have no respect. The  more important realization is that both bring important qualities to the table, and both should be respected for such.
Susan Fourtané
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11/25/2013 | 9:23:27 AM
Re: Ageism and Sexism
Mariposa, 

Maybe people, and the media are giving too much importance to what Mark Z. says? Let's not forget that FB satrted as a school project, he was not even working on a startup. He was just lucky. 

Also, maybe it's a good idea to remember that Mark Z. is not the sole representative of his generation. There are many others, founders and CEOs of their startups, who are smarter, and think differently. 

-Susan
Joe Stanganelli
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11/22/2013 | 10:32:42 PM
Re: TOO OLD??? ARE YOU KIDDING????
I'm with you, turquhart.  While I've found that young people are frequently more open to innovation, Those 45+ generally know their stuff more -- and are more passionate about what they do.
Ariella
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11/21/2013 | 12:58:21 PM
Re: Are You Too Old For IT?


Those of you who feel the pain of age bias may get a kick out of the video that looks at the flip side: what people think of millenials in the work place with some tongue-in-cheek advice about how to treat them.

 

 
Ariella
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11/21/2013 | 10:37:26 AM
Re: Too old and too hard to prove discrimination
@DiscustedOne what you say fits well with the investigations of hiring bias discussed in http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/12/theyre-watching-you-at-work/354681/ Aside from stereotyping older workers as set in their ways or not up to date, in general people who do hiring look for those like them.  They make judgements based on their gut reaction, and they are very often wrong. That's why some places are now using analytics for more objective and more accurate assessment of employee suitability for positions. 
Joe Stanganelli
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11/21/2013 | 9:51:10 AM
Outdating of skills
I remember reading somewhere that the skills someone learns while pursuing a technical degree become obsolete in three years.  Ultimately, it's about the fundamental understanding.  Experience is a big factor of that.  It's a shame that companies have resorted to this age discrimination while shooting themselves in the foot in the process.
Michael Endler
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11/20/2013 | 6:55:22 PM
Re: Similar Dynamic
@Thomas-- A friend of mine has had a similar experience. He's about ten years into his career as a software engineer, and every interview he's been to lately, all for senior engineer positions, he's been asked why he isn't applying for management roles.
Tom Murphy
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11/20/2013 | 5:13:02 PM
Re: Probably a simple reason
Actually, it was my doctor (a fellow in his late 50s) who gave me that advice about heart surgeons. He also told me that if anyone ever tells you that you need a stent, make sure you go to a big-city hospital instead of your local general hospital. "All the good doctors work in the city," he said.  He lived in the burbs near me.
Tom Murphy
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11/20/2013 | 4:35:28 PM
RE: Keepin up with Tech
Howard:  First, thanks for being so frank -- I'm sure there are a lot of us gray beards out here who can relate to your plight.  Personally, I found that happening, so I put myself through the exercise of figuring out why people would want to hire me.  I literally made four lists:

1. Things I do well and in which I have extensive experience. (social media? finance? tech? Writing?)

2. Things I need from a job to make me really happy.  (money? location? flex hours?)

3. Jobs that require expertise in the first list and offer most of the second. 

4. Companies that offer those jobs. Then I approach those companies and tell them affirmatively that I can help them with that job -- whether they are advertising for it or not.

That may sound simplistic, but it has led me to a series of fascinating jobs over the past 20 years. I have even convinced at least three employers to create a job for me.  I'm 60 now, and have no intention of quitting anytime soon, but when I do, I already know what I'm doing next. In fact, I have a few things in the No. 3 group (I keep the list current, just in case.)
Tom Murphy
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11/20/2013 | 4:19:11 PM
Women -- of any age.
Ageism is one thing. But even more frightening is the absence of women from the ranks. It's rare to see an IT department where women comprise even 10%.  That ain't right.
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