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Volkswagen Software Cheated Emissions Test: EPA

The Environmental Protection Agency and the California Air Resources Board claim VW deliberately programmed almost 500,000 diesel cars to emit fewer pollutants under test conditions than during actual use.

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Broadway0474
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9/28/2015 | 9:46:42 PM
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In the 90s, I believe, VW hit another low point based exclusively on poor quality (and probably poor marketing too). They had a huge hit on their hands with those Jettas, but then word got out about how the cars didn't last. They made another comeback recently, but it seems that they cant get out of their own way...or can't turn around their inferior processes and ethics.
Joe Stanganelli
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9/27/2015 | 11:00:06 PM
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Interesting.  I didn't have a recollection of Orlando being particularly smoggy, but some Googling indicates that it's become more of a problem in recent years in that area.

Apparently Pensacola and the Tampa/St. Pete's area are also rather smoggy, too.
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9/27/2015 | 7:20:46 PM
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Volkswagen means "people's car" -  The original Volkswagen Beetle needed an engine rebuilt every 80,000 km for not having a proper oil filter and poor cooling, also they had a lousy heating system causing steamed up windows, further leaky valve rod covers and valve lifters that needed adjustment continuously.- Japanese cars are superior in quality compared to Volkswagen
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9/25/2015 | 12:27:37 PM
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@TerryB  - Agree, agree, agree.  The government is supposed to be the common sense and to use a legal term, "reasonable man" of society.  

Volkswagen, however, has always been one to skirt the long arm of the law and has apparently not learned from their recent sex and bribery scandals.  Eventually, you get caught.  And eventually people won't trust you anymore.
Broadway0474
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9/23/2015 | 9:46:03 PM
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Yes, Joe. You combine those thousands of miles of highway, the millions of cars, with the oppressive heat and humidity, and Houston's got to be a literal deathtrap for people with asthma and other breathing difficulties. I would imagine other big Southern cities are equally nicht so gut, like Atlanta, maybe Orlando.
Joe Stanganelli
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9/23/2015 | 9:34:18 PM
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Indeed, here in the US we already have over-polluted cities.  I know people who have had to move away from Houston to New England because of Houston's exceptionally poor air quality.
Joe Stanganelli
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9/23/2015 | 9:32:44 PM
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This would be an issue regardless of the EPA.  The FTC (along with state AGs) would also have enforcement jurisdiction here because of VW's engagement in unfair and deceptive trade practices in lying about/manipulating data.
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9/23/2015 | 6:35:32 AM
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"The government put the clamps down 20 years ago, now forcing them to dredge and cleanup these waters. Slowly the waters are almost usable again. You think these businesses would have acted on their own to clean things up? There is a role for government oversight, the debate is simply how much."

Terry, yes government and local bodies have their own roles in enforcing laws and rules to make things happens. Otherwise, these types of industries won't care either about nature or surroundings and finally leads to major consequences. 
Gigi3
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9/23/2015 | 6:31:49 AM
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"Most emissions testing requires the inspector to link the exam equipment to the car obd connector (On Board Diagnostic) to verify the car being tested is the car reported. So in addition to the dyno/emissions mentioned below, it could be pretty obvious to the car the combination of data being requested for emissions testing or simply any odb connection had been made.  Eitherway, must be some pretty interesting code, as the software would likely need to change the expected values for the oxygen sensors in the exhaust, mass airflow sensors, etc."

Should beu2, you are right. Testing equipments have to link with car and sensors for detecting the emission level. If they found a lower emission level, then it's a fault of sensing and detecting devices. how one can manipulate such readings, that too from vehicle itself. 
Broadway0474
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9/22/2015 | 10:55:12 PM
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TerryB, excellent points. The argument against government regulation is regressive and refuses to acknowledge the lessons of the past. The Progressive Movement that got into poiwer in the early 20th century was in large part driven against the excesses of business in the late 19th century --- tainted food, child labor, unsafe workplaces, etc. --- and that's led to subsequent attempts to make businesses understand their roles in their communities. They are stewards of the community, and there are costs to that. Why must they be made to realize this? Because it's "economics" that businesses will always cheat, even when there aren't rules. You can argue, the fewer rules they have, the more they'll cheat. If you want businesses that can pollute freely, move to a big Chinese city and see how well your lungs are doing in a few months.
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